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29. FEBRUARY 2009-APRIL 2010: DJ JOINS THE BAND; TOURING CHINESE DEMOCRACY

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Post by Soulmonster Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:45 am

MARCH 7 AND 10, 2010
THE LATIN AMERICAN TOUR STARTS


Before coming to Latin America, Bumblefoot would be asked about his anticipations about touring this region of the world:

I expect to have a damn good time with a bunch of crazy Chileans...

I've been in touch with South American Guns N' Roses fans for a few years now, and they've been one of the most passionate and supportive of all. I can't wait to do this one-on-one. For me it will be spiritual. My expectation is that the Brazilian audience will be loud, beautiful and fun - I know you won't let me down! This is going to be awesome.
Rolling Stone Brazil, December 29, 2009; translated from Portuguese

Heey, just finished a great week of surprise acoustic shows in NYC - the South American tour is a few weeks away, and the excitement is growing! This will be my first time there, but after years of contact and support with S. American fans, I feel like I'm getting together with people I already know, the connection is already there. I look forward to meeting everyone and having a great time together - see you soon in Brazil!!


In late February, 2010, Axl would deny the band would play shows in Panama, Costa Rica and Guatemala:

IMPORTANT NOTICE!!!

There are NO new Guns N' Roses shows added to our current onsale itinerary dated as of February 25th. This means NO SHOWS in Panama, Costa Rica or Guatemala regardless of ANYONE's claims or ticket sales. These dates or ANY additional dates anywhere other than those already previously announced and on sale before February 25th will NOT BE HONORED. There will be NO EXCEPTIONS until further notice here on this my personal twitter account. If you have purchased tickets to ANY suggested new dates being offered after February 25th please contact your place of purchase for refunds. We apologize for any inconvenience.


But then in March the shows had been scheduled:

Attention!! Important Notice!!

We can now say officially we will be coming to Panama, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala and Puerto Rico.

Our shows in these countries were originally announced without our knowledge n' dates were put up for sale that weren't confirmed.

We're also attempting to reschedule Rio for Apr 4. We'll let you know asap when this is confirmed.

[...]

Hope to see you out there!! Our apologies for any inconvenience. All the best!!

Axl-



THE SHOWS


The first show of the Latin American tour took place at Ginásio Nilson Nelson in Brasília, Brazil on March 7.

At the venue, relaxing backstage listening to the rain fall. Good to see the crew again, missed them! Hands are aching to get on a guitar...
Twitter, March 6, 2010

(Just a soundcheck today...)   6000 contest entries, announcing the first winner soon......!
Twitter, March 6, 2010

Kickin' back with the acoustic guitar, watching the crowd fill up the arena.  DOH!  I've been spotted!!  (Throwing them guitar picks...)
Twitter, March 7, 2010

OK, the show...   greatest moment, the GIANT FLAG!  Couldn't believe my eyes when it unraveled and spread across
Twitter, March 8, 2010


The band then continued for shows at Ginásio Mineirinho, Belo Horizonte, Brazil (March 10) and Estádio Palestra Itália in São Paulo, Brazil (March 13).



Bumblefoot
Belo Horizonte, March 10, 2010


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MARCH 9, 2010
DALE "RAGE" RESTEGHNINI IS HIRED TO PHOTOGRAPH THE TOUR


On March 9, 2010, it would be reported that Dale 'Rage' Resteghini, world-renowned music video director, had been hired by the band to document the ongoing tour through still photography [Blabbermouth, March 9, 2010].

Commenting on the opportunity, Resteghini would say:

Axl Rose is the quintessential rock-star frontman and is all things you'd expect and some you would not expect. He is very humorous and very, very passionate about his fans and ensuring that the legacy of GN'R as being one of most incredible and best-selling rock bands in the history of music remains intact."


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THE SOLO SPOTS


Immediately after starting to tour with the band, Bumblefoot, like other band members, would get a solo spot:

I try to make it fun. I play an instrumental version of "Don't Cry" and the audience sings along. But I mix it up, I've played Van Halen's "Eruption", at Christmas I sang and played "You're A Mean One, Mr. Grinch", Ace Frehley's solo from the Kiss Alive! album, sometimes just technical tapping and speed soloing. Yeah, I just have fun with it.

I've always liked doing 'Don't Cry.' I did it as my solo and would have the audience sing along - love that kinda stuff, connecting with the audience.


As the 2009/2010 touring commenced, show reviews would frequently comment on the numerous solo spots where different band members got to shine while Axl took a back seat.

I'd rather not even do a guitar solo, unless it's another GNR song - that's what the audience came there to see.

[Being asked if he planned on playing one of his songs during the shows]: Nah, I'd rather people get up and go to the bathroom during one of my solos, not one of my songs - they may not come back if I played one of my songs.

And the fans deserve the acknowledgement, the recognition and participation and the inclusion, even when I would do things on stage and for my solo—you stand up there like a jerk for 5 minutes, and play whatever – I would do something where the audience could sing along and make them part of it, instead of making it just a 5 minute wang fest, and I would just do a song we hadn’t done in the set, have the words on the screen for people to sing along, trying to make them a part of a show. So to me, having the fans a part of the show and having a connection to the fans is just a normal part of what I do. But, I understand others who can’t do it.


Richard would be playing the James Bond theme as his solo number throughout 2010:

I'll probably stick to it for Europe, as I don't know that we will have much time to rehearse before the next run.


Bumblefoot would be asked which of his own songs he'd like to play as his solo spot, but again say he'd rather play another Guns N' Roses song:

Maybe 'Guitars Suck' would work, but I'd rather see more GNR songs at a GNR show, and less of other things. People are there to hear GNR.


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MARCH 12, 2010
ANGRY FANS IN BRAZIL RIOT WHEN SECRET SHOW DOESN'T HAPPEN


On March 9, 2010, there would be rumours that GN'R would perform three secret shows while in Brasil, including one in Sao Paolo on March 12 [Reuters, March 9, 2010]. The shows had been orchestrated by Jamison Ernest, an alleged friend of Axl who owned the clothing company and band, both named Yellow Fever [Reuters, March 9, 2010].

But the very same day, Fernando Lebeis, posting on Here Today...Gone Tomorrow, would deny the band intended to do these three secret shows [Blabbermouth, March 9, 2010]:

Sorry, guys, there will not be three secret shows in South America.

[...]

Sorry for the confusion, some people just need to be quiet and enjoy the sun.


It seems that this message was not conveyed to party-goers in Sao Paolo, because on March 12, the date of the first of these secret shows, would riot when it dawned on them the concert would not happen:

An A-list crowd of Brazilian billionaires and supermodels rioted at 3 a.m. yesterday after waiting hours for Guns N' Roses to perform, and then learning Axl Rose and his band wouldn't play. The exclusive concert in a Sao Paulo club was hosted by Ana Beatriz Barros and fellow lingerie models. "The audience got angry and started to mount the stage, and fight and destroy everything," our source said. "It was wild. There were fights everywhere, on the dance floor, in the bathrooms, outside the club. Crazy. I guess the free drinks didn't help."


Axl would explain what that was about and indicate that he never really had wanted to do the secret shows, who were booked without his consent, and that when it came to it, his health meant he had to prioritize the larger, normal show:

So a couple of nights ago we had some problems here. I know I'm probably giving him too much credit by talking about it, but i gotta get it off my chest, 'cause I'm fucking pissed off. See, we know this little scumbag up in New York. He talked about booking a show, a bunch of models and shit, that's his shtick. And I told him no, but he booked it anyway. I found out the night before the show and I was gonna go... But then I had a show, my throat was pretty fucked up from the show before. And I wanna apologize if I'm not hitting all my high fucking notes tonight. But as much we hate to disappoint anyone, had to look at priorities. It was either a couple of hundred people or all of you. And my so called friend thought I was being selfish by not doing his show, and I'm supposed to say "Fuck You!" to you. I didn't wanna say "Fuck You!" to you... So as why that didn't happen and why we're here tonight, it's because, we wanted to play this show.
Estádio do Palmeiras, São Paulo, Brazil, March 13, 2010

So I'm in the shower at the gig after r Sao Paulo show n' when I touch the faucet I get a jolt of electricity!! Wtf!! Time 2 get the fuck out da water!! Anyway! After a bunch of meds, about 2 1/2+ hrs of warmups, r show n' another hour of warmdowns we'll b headin' into Rio for r show there. This was hard comin' as all anyone bsides the band thinks about is the money. Who gives a fuck about the fans, how it sounds or if it fucks up the rest of the tour?! I don't perform for ANYONE in this industry n' no matter how nice, funny or what spin they put on things they're seemingly n' unfortunately all the same. We had a good show here in Sao Paulo n' a bunch of opportunists w/out my knowledge or consent did their best to make it about them b4 hand instead of the fans or there wouldn't have been shit in the Post but hey we got past 'em enough to do r gig. What's really crazy is these same types have the unmitigated gall to feel they're the ones who were taken advantage of!! Fuck the bourgeoisie!! Of course that's not to say there weren't plenty in attendance the other nite who like us got duped as well but the others well... It's not for them or their kind (or stalkers or press agents etc.) It's for u. Thank you Sao Paulo!! Peace, Axl-
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MARCH 13-22, 2010
THE LATIN AMERICAN TOUR CONTINUES


The next show of the Latin American tour was at Estádio Palestra Itália in São Paulo, Brazil (March 13).

Already at the beginning of the show, a bottle was thrown on stage:

Singer Axl Rose stopped Guns N' Roses' concert last night (Saturday, March 13) at Estádio do Palmeiras in São Paulo, Brazil about two minutes into the show's opening number, "Chinese Democracy", after a member of the audience allegedly threw a bottle on stage. "Where's the little fuck over here?" Axl asked after he instructed his bandmates to stop playing. "C'mon, coward. You wanna fuck up the show for everybody? 'Cause I've got no problem — I will leave. We will all leave. You wanna play games? You can fuck yourself or we can have some fun. You guys wanna have fun? Then I don't need no little fucking pussies like we had the other night at that club. [Presumably referring to the incident Thursday night when an A-list crowd of Brazilian billionaires and supermodels rioted after waiting hours for Guns N' Roses to perform, and then learning Axl Rose and his band wouldn't play. — Ed.] You wanna fuck with me and my boys? We will leave."


Later, Axl would lead the audience in a "Fuck you, Axl Rose! chant:

It's a lovely evening, don't you think? We have a saying around my house. See if you can help me with my saying. It goes like this: "Fuck you, Axl Rose!" So can you help me out? I'll say "Fuck You", and then you'll say "Axl Rose"...
Estádio do Palmeiras, São Paulo, Brazil, March 13, 2010


The band then continued to Porto Alegro, in Brazil, for a show at Estacionamento da FIERGS on March 16.

Fun gig tonight in Porto Alegre!! That was the most slippery stage I ever stood on, feet would slip n' slide
Twitter, March 17, 2010


Then followed a show at Estadio Centenario, Montevideo, Uruguay (March 18), Movistar Arena, Santiago, Chile (March 20) (which had originally been scheduled for March 22) and Estadio Vélez Sarsfield, Buenos Aires, Argentina (March 22).



Ax and Bumblefoot
Montevideo, March 18, 2010



before coming to Uruguay, Bumblefoot would mention having relatives there:

I have family in Uruguay, but we've never met - we don't even know who we are. Before WWII my grandparents and their siblings changed their identity to escape the Nazis - some went to New York, and some went to Uruguay. All information and contact was lost. Maybe somewhere in the audience there will be family of mine and we won't know it, so I will think of *all* of you as my possible family and greet you with love, as my own.


In Argentina, 12 people were arrested after fans tried to enter the venue without tickets resulting in a scuffle with the police who used tear gas and rubber bullets to disperse the crowd [Blabbermouth, March 22, 2010].

Excerpt of review in the Buenos Aires Herald:

Before it started, it was impossible to find the right entrance. Fans wandered from one side to another, misled by police officers who had no idea how to direct them to the door corresponding to the ticket. Outside Vélez stadium on Monday, black-dressed youngsters, some  wearing a red headscarf favoured by Axl, confronted police as they supposedly had fake tickets. Although some weren’t carrying a ticket, others were but it didn’t matter — they weren’t allowed in anyway. Arrests were made and the ones who did escape burnt down a tree to show how they felt about the injustice.

When I finally managed to enter, nobody walked me to my seat. I agreed to wait until Sebastián Bach (former Skid Row) support act finished. When lights came on, I looked for my mysterious location. It was impossible to find an usher and, after stalking one for a while, he told me where I was supposed to be but advised me not to go there. “OK, I’ll show you where, but please don’t ask me to argue with the person sitting there because I’ve had enough for one day,” he told me. It’s a deal, I’ll do the talking, I assured him.

Row six, seats one and three. Two teenage girls were in my seats, claiming innocence by saying they had the same tickets as me. But they lacked evidence, so I had no choice but to call security. Of course, it was useless, so I threatened them, much to my regret. “Don’t worry, we’ll all stand up when Axl starts singing and it will be a mess anyway, look around you,” she said to me.

The same was happening all over the place. I wasn’t the only one quarrelling, on the verge of a physical fight with another person over a seat that cost $400 (the cheapest were $90). Some shouted, others accepted the inevitable, the smartest sought out free space. In the jungle, animals dressed as humans flew off the handle, and the only rule that prevailed was Darwin’s survival of the fittest. But they didn’t react that way out of the blue: they had their reasons.

Were the same tickets sold twice? Where did all those fake passes came from? Who knows. But the fact remains that this was an international concert that was far from well-organized — and no excuse can redeem it, not even the fact that the venue changed from River to Vélez the week before due to BA city government’s excessive regulations. The discontent could be perceived in the atmosphere, overcrowded with people whose blood boiled during and after the two-hour delay.

At 11pm, Axl showed up on all-fire stage with the song that lends its title to the album, Chinese Democracy. Then, it was the turn of Welcome to the Jungle, followed by several hits from the latest album. His rock-n-roll spirit fuelled the anger as people jumping in the front row started throwing amicable Argentine flags (Axl put one on) and unfriendly bottles (which triggered Axl’s fear). When the attacks went too far, he stopped the show and was crystal clear. “Thank you for your love and support but, please, don’t throw this kind of crap on stage because you might hurt me or you. We don’t wanna arrest you. We all came here to have fun, didn’t we? If you keep on doing this, I’ll call it a day,” he threatened. Although his words didn’t materialize, he had to interrupt the concert three times.

Apart from the extramusical complications, the gig wasn’t as fluent as expected. He intertwined new, rocker songs with old, calmer ballads, giving way to confusion as he didn’t lead the mood of the audience — most of them were halfway between rock’s unstoppable energy and the concentration required to enjoy the more profound songs such as Don’t Cry, Patience, November Rain and a great version of Pink Floyd’s The Wall.

In between hits, he included solo sections by his musicians that slowed down the gig’s pace. If it was too in-your-face with Axl’s out-of-control movements, the instrumental segments were too long and tedious — except for the recreation of Lalo Schifrin’s The Pink Panther Theme or James Bond soundtrack followed by Live and Let Die. Was Axl generous enough to give room for his crew to shine or was he trying to avoid being on stage as long as possible? When performing lengthy tracks, such as You Could be Mine (Terminator 2), he would run away mid song and return when it was time to finish it.


Axl would comment on fans throwing stuff on stage and how great it was to play for South American fans:

Headed 4 Lima! Was great gettin' back 2 Buenos Aires!! The crowds everywhere on this tour r unique un2 themselves. Don't get much rowdier or energetic than here n' as w/ Belo Horizonte n' Santiago etc. very humbling. Sure there's excited idiots who throw shit or whatever but 4 the most part the fans r so enthusiastic, positive n' we mean so much 2 them it sets u bk n' makes u work hard to feel u can earn a small part of the respect they show u. So many of these shows we have trouble w/r sound on stage to b able to hear 'cuz the audience is singing along so loud which is amazing!! It's also nice to visit places that aren't as jaded n' influenced by peer pressure or media nonsense. They know what they like n' stand up 4 it rather than b told what they should n' shouldn't b in2. I grew up w/the preppies n' jocks w/their pink Izod's where Bowie, Cooper, Zeppelin etc. were considered garbage n' when The Cars, The Police, The Clash, The Ramones, The Sex Pistols etc were "gay", whatever. South American fans have always been so good to us, I'm happy we were able to find a way to play for those we've been fortunate enough to have seen so far!! Obrigado, Gracias n' Thank You!! N' to the officials who gave us extra time in Buenos Aires a triple Thank You!! Peace!!
Twitter, March 25, 2010


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ADDITIONAL MUSIC VIDEOS FROM CHINESE DEMOCRACY?


In February 2009, Axl would suggest more music videos were planned, in addition to the one for Better (which was never released) and that to him "a few videos" were part of the product:

For me, once the real accompanying artwork is there with a few videos and some touring, the package was achieved and delivered.

We're finalizing a video for "Better" and writing a couple others now. Over time different ideas have been tossed around, written up or submitted but that was then. Nothing we had come up with -- or at least the approaches so far -- felt right.


Then in March 2010 in the press release announcing that he had been hired to take photographs during the ongoing 2010 tour, Dale "Rage" Resteghini, would say that Axl planned to release music videos for songs off Chinese Democracy "on the same grand scope and style of classics such as 'November Rain'" [Blabbermouth, March 9, 2010].

In July 2010, Bumblefoot would indicate that the band was not working on new videos:

No video stuff to speak of, not at this point.


In the end, no music videos were officially released, not even the Better video.


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MARCH 24, 2010
AZOFF SUES AXL


On March 24, 2010, Front Line Management, Irving Azoff's management company, would sue Axl, Black Frog Music and BVF Productions for breach of contract for failing to pay Azoff compensation for his services based on an oral agreement allegedly made between Azoff and Axl in or around August 2008 [Lawsuit documents, March 24, 2010]. Azoff claimed he was owed in excess of $1,870,500 in commissions from the shows in Asia in the beginning of 2010, in addition to additional compensation not clear at the time of the lawsuit [Lawsuit documents, March 24, 2010].

The Wrap would report on the lawsuit:

Two years ago music mogul Irving Azoff told the world he and his management company Front Line Management were "honored” that Axl Rose had “placed his trust in us" to represent him and Guns’N’Roses.

That was then. On Thursday, Front Line filed a lawsuit in L.A. County Superior Court, claiming that Rose and GNR owe the company more than $1.8 million under their management agreement.

The suit also asks for a full accounting of Rose to determine what other funds Front Line might be owed.

The suit alleges not only that Rose owes Front Line money for services as "artist’s manager," but that the singer committed "fraud" and "an abuse of corporate privilege" with "shells … through which Rose has at all times material herein carried out his business."

The suit states that Rose, GNR and 10 as yet unnamed defendants breached an “oral agreement” by "failing and refusing" to pay a 15 percent commission on “in excess of $12,470,000 in monies that defendants received and/or earned on connection with performances in Taipei, Seoul, Japan, Canada and South America."

This suit puts one of the most powerful men in the music industry in a head-on collision with one of the most notorious performers in the business.

As well as being the longtime manager for the Eagles, Azoff handles superstars such as Van Halen, Miley Cyrus and Christina Aguilera.

After the purchase of Front Line by Ticketmaster in October 2008, Azoff also became the chairman and CEO of the giant ticket sales company, where he was one of the architects and leading proponents of the merger with promoter Live Nation.


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MARCH 25-APRIL 15, 2010
THE LATIN AMERICAN TOUR CONCLUDES


The band then continued to Explanada Sur del Estadio Monumental in Lima for the band's first ever concert in Peru on March 25.



Axl
Lima, March 25, 2010



Blabbermouth would report on the show:

Guns N' Roses frontman Axl Rose threatened to cut short last night's concert in Lima, Peru after enraged fans — who were forced to wait until 12:30 a.m. for the headlining act to take the stage — began throwing objects at the singer. "If you wanna throw shit, we will leave," Axl said through an interpreter. "We would like to stay and have fun with you for a long time tonight." He then added, "So we're gonna have fun? Let's try that again."

A total of three support acts performed before Guns N' Roses took the stage, including former Skid Row singer Sebastian Bach, who ended his show just after 11:00 p.m. Fans were then made to wait for more than one hour before Axl and his bandmates began the concert, with many of the more than 25,000 people in attendance showing visible signs of fatigue (see video footage below).

Guns opened its performance with "Chinese Democracy" and "Welcome To The Jungle"; however, the songs that received the most enthusiastic response were "Live And Let Die", "You Could Be Mine", "Knockin' On Heaven's Door", "November Rain", "Patience" and "Madagascar", according to LivingInPeru.com.


The next concerts were at the Poliedro de Caracas in Caracas, Venezuela (March 27) and at the Parque Jaime Duque in Bogotá, Colombia (March 30).



The band
Caracas, March 27, 2010



not sure if we left a trail of genius in bogota or not but it sure was a lot of fun.what a great crowd.cheers bogota!!!!
Twitter, March 31, 2010


The tour continued with the band's first ever show at the Estadio Olímpico Atahualpa in Quito, Ecuador (April 1) and then Praça da Apoteose in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (April 4).

The show in Rio was originally scheduled to take place on March 14, but had to be postponed because the stage collapsed.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE!! ATTENTION: The March 14th Guns N' Roses show in Rio De Janeiro at Apoteose Stadium has been officially canceled for this evening due to the stage collapsing because of heavy rains. Stay tuned for more info and possible rescheduling information as we receive it. There is a possibility the show may be rescheduled for tomorrow night March 15th or at a later date. There fortunately are no fatalities but there are injuries from both our camp and Rio crews the extent of which is not known at present. The Rio Fire Dept is evacuating crews out of the venue to avoid further injuries with the heavy rains and winds. Details are just coming in. Also a truck w/part of The Sebastian Bach Band's gear has rolled on the trip from Sao Paulo to Rio what is our understanding several times and we are awaiting details on the safety of the driver at this time.   Thank you for your understanding and please be safe out there. Thank you. Axl Rose-
MySpace/Twitter, March 14, 2010

RIO UPDATE: All injuries appear to be minor. There were originally radio reports of a fatality which has fortunately turned out to be false. Initial reports are that our staging is for the most part ok but a more accurate assessment is being made. No word yet on if the show will be moved to tomorrow the 15th or another night. Reportedly Baz's truck driver is ok as well. Thank you again for your understanding.
Axl-
Twitter, March 14, 2010

RIO UPDATE: They're now saying the venue actually experienced a minor tornado. Either that or regional Global media blowing usual hot air. J/k !! Love, El Gordo!!
Twitter, March 14, 2010




The collapsed stage



The next show took place at the Figali Convention Center in Panama City, Panama (April 7).

The band was then supposed to play a show in Costa Rica on April 9, but this was cancelled after parts of the newly built stage collapsed under the weight of the large video screen used in the show [Blabbermouth, April 9, 2010].

3 shows 2 go!! No word on if there'll b a makeup 4 Costa Rica. Though we'd obviously rather have a had a fun show we're more than thankful the very real n' serious staging problems were discovered b4 hand n' no one was hurt. We're lookin' at gettin' bk 2 a place or 2 in SA asap. Hope everyone enjoyed the shows. Big thanks 2 everyone who came out n' supported us!!
Twitter, April 10, 2010


The next show took place at the Estadio Cuscatlán in San Salvador, El Salvador (April 10).



Richard, Axl and Dj
San Salvador, April 10, 2010



The concert was super, super awesome. The crowd was incredible, we started at a pretty decent hour [laughs] and I've heard from a few people that not a lot of shows come through here, right? And it was awesome. Awesome.


Dj would compare the audiences in South America with those in the US:

It's amazing! I had the most fun at the concert and all the people here are beyond nice. I can't wait to come back. [...] The people, the passion they have here for the music, the love and appreciation has been overwhelming. It's a relief from being in the USA, you know, because people, I feel, have kind of lost a sense of that in the USA. We are here, you know, the passion. Someone can tell they really don't listen to media here saying, "This band sucks, don't go see them." If they like it in their hearts they don't care what anybody else has to say and I think that is really cool.


Then the show in Guatamala was also cancelled:

El Salvador ROCKED! The stadium felt like ancient Rome. Great crowd!! Unfortunately r show in Guatemala's been cancelled. Attempts to substitute Costa Rica ultimatley weren't successful which leaves 1 SHOW LEFT!
Twitter, April 12, 2010


According to Blabbermouth, using Nuestro Diario newspaper as its source, the show was cancelled after only 3,000 out of 15,000 tickets were sold [Blabbermouth, April 13, 2010].

Axl would tweet about wanting to return to Guatemala and Costa Rica to make up for the two cancelled shows:

We do hope to be able to play both Costa Rica n' Guatemala at a later date. Management n' promoters r in talks. It'd b great 4 the fans 2 b able 2 get their performance. Our apologies 4 any inconvenience this has caused. It's a crazy business n' this tour's had it's share of twists n' turns. The fans n' shows have made all the chaos n' confusion worth it in the long run. Here's 2 u!! Hope to see u in Puerto Rico!!
Twitter, April 15, 2010


And later Bumblefoot would be asked if he was angry that the Costa Rican show did not go as planned:

Yes, very angry. It was very sad. We went there to do a show and we couldn't do it. It hits hard not doing what you were supposed to do, even though you went there for it. They gave a second option and that didn't work either... You know how disappointing it is for the fans, but it's just as disappointing for you, too, because you wanted the show to be done as much as they did.

[...]

Since we arrived we met a lot of wonderful people, we enjoyed the weather, the food and we had an excellent time there. We were really looking forward to doing the show, but on the same day (Friday April 9th) we were told that they had built the stage poorly and that there was no time to rebuild and inspect it to make sure it would be fine when we played. They told us they were working hard so that we could play the next night, but they couldn't ... or at least that was the information they gave us.

That day a handful of fans came at the hotel, so I gathered them, we went outside and I played an almost 2-hour acoustic show for them.  We sang and played songs at a private show;  It was the least I could do for them. I went there to play and I had to make sure I could give some kind of a show to some people in Costa Rica and at least make them happy.
Vuelta en U (Costa Rica), May 2, 2010; translated from Spanish


And being asked what he felt when the second date to perform the concert was cancelled:

That was like a second punch to the face.  At that moment you feel that everything is against your hope to play, but you refuse to let the negative things win over you.

Even as just a matter of principle, we need to return to Costa Rica in some way and give people a show.  However, it is very complicated: there are promoters, contracts, 55,000 pounds of equipment that we have to carry by plane and a crew of 60 people.  It is not as easy as saying "let's go" and traveling there.  It is very complicated and many times you feel that you are moving a mountain as long as things are carried out.

I remember that with my own band, seven people traveled on tour: we slept on the equipment, we all drove anywhere in a minibus, and it was that simple.  However, the machinery of Guns N' Roses is much bigger, it is not so easy for everything to happen.

Axl wants it to happen, and so do we and the audience… we're going to find a way to make it happen.  I don't know when;  I'd like to snap my fingers and get there… for now we hope to be lucky enough to do that and go to both Costa Rica and Guatemala.
Vuelta en U (Costa Rica), May 2, 2010; translated from Spanish


This final show of the tour took place at the Coliseo Roberto Clemente in San Juan, Puerto Rico on April 15.


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LOOKING BACK AT THE
LATIN AMERICAN TOUR OF 2010


All things considered, I’d say South America was a success! I have a few new scars, one less bass, one less favorite coat (damn thieving baggage handlers!), a few less brain cells, and a new appreciation for Cipro. I have seen a lot of beautiful places and people on this tour, and only a few not-so-much.

The shows were a lot of fun. We played to a lot more of you than I expected we would. I really want to thank all of you who braved the elements and everything else to see the show.

I also want to thank our crew for enduring the beating. This was a huge show to put together and they made it happen under some of the worst circumstances imaginable, except where it was truly impossible to do so, LOL.

Oh, it was amazing!  It is so different compared to going on tour to other parts of the world, especially the United States.  Latin Americans are more passionate about music and I knew that was going to be the case, I have spoken with GnR fans for a long time: they told me what to expect and they really did not lie.

GnR fans, and music fans in general, in Latin America love it so much… In Lima, Peru, when we got off the plane there were like 300 people behind a gate at the airport: they yelled, they wanted videos and autographs.  In the United States there is nothing like that, it's very different here, so it was very intense to go on tour in Latin America.

I will always carry the memories of those moments with me, I will never forget them and hopefully we can repeat it and live that again.
Vuelta en U (Costa Rica), May 2, 2010; translated from Spanish

I think the South American tour ruined me for all other tours, haha! It was so good, nothing will ever be quite like it...
Whiplash (Brazil), June 29, 2010; translated from Portuguese


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NEW BAND MEMBERS TALKING AND INTERACTING WITH OLD BAND MEMBERS


The new band members would get to know Izzy after he played with them in 2006:

Talking about playing with Izzy:

Izzy’s a sweet guy, I really enjoy spending time with him. He’s a cool guy to hang with. We always had fun playing on stage. It was funny – one of the last shows that we were doing together, we were backstage and we were working out a song – “The Devil Went Down To Georgia”. It’s a southern song from the late 70’s, and it has this really fast violin stuff in it, and we worked it out. I was doing the violin part, and he was strumming the chords. It was cool, but we didn’t play it on stage. He’s a real nice guy and I definitely enjoyed his company.

Had some good times hangin' with Izzy when he joined us on the '06 tours - great guy! He and I had worked out a guitar version of 'Devil Went Down To Georgia' - good stuff. We almost busted it out at one of the LA shows in December, 2006.

[Being asked if he would consider doing a project with a former band member]: Jammed with Izzy plenty of times, and we worked out a nice version of 'The Devil Went Down To Georgia', does that count?  Haha...   Bucket and I talked before he joined GNR about me singing on his stuff [ed. note: this happened in 1999], way back when - generally, if someone's cool and there's no issues, I give things a chance. You can always find a reason to not do things, I say fuck it and just play...  but there are people in my history I'd never play with again no matter what, so I understand anyone feeling that way about anyone. And it's best not to get in the middle of those situations.

Had a great time hangin' with Izzy on tour. He and I had worked out a version of "The Devil Went Down To Georgia" together, we were thinkin' of busting it out at one of the shows, haha.


Izzy on his side would be asked why he decided to return to play with Guns N' Roses:

You know, there's a very special connection with rock' n' roll audiences, and I had the desire to experience that again. When you play such energetic songs as Nightrain, Mr. Brownstone or Welcome to the Jungle, there is instantly a connection between the band and the audience. There's something electrifying to that and I had the desire to experience it again.


And talk about the new version of the band:

They're tighter than we were. (Laughter) Those guys are great musicians. We were more spontaneous.


As for which version was the better:

I only played four or five songs a night during that tour and didn’t see a lot of the show. So I really wouldn’t know.


Tommy had also met Duff previously:

I met [Duff] a few years back, and he seemed like a really sweet guy. He didn’t seem to have any issues with me – I don’t think he wanted the gig anymore.


On May 19, 2009, Bumblefoot would join Loaded on stage at the Gramercy in New York on the songs Stone In Love (Journey), Tush (ZZ Top) and Living After Midnight (Judas Priest) [Blabbermouth, May 20, 2009].



Bumblefoot on stage with Loaded
May 19, 2009
Credit Dave Cromwell



We were joined onstage by Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal, a virtuoso on guitar and a first-class all-around guy!
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