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29. FEBRUARY 2009-APRIL 2010: DJ JOINS THE BAND; TOURING CHINESE DEMOCRACY

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CHAPTER INDEX

- BAND MEMBERS ARE KEPT IN THE DARK
- FEBRUARY-MARCH 2009: AUDITIONING NEW GUITAR PLAYERS
- MARCH 21, 2009: DJ ASHBA JOINS GUNS N' ROSES
- DJ BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES
- APRIL 14, 2009: A ROCK BAND CHINESE DEMOCRACY RELEASE
- APRIL-JUNE 2009: PREPARING FOR THE CHINESE DEMOCRACY WORLD TOUR
- JUNE-SEPTEMBER 2009: BUMBLEFOOT TOURS WITH LITA FORD
- AUGUST-NOVEMBER 2009: TOUR RUMOURS AND CONFIRMATION
- MISSED TOURING IN THE SUMMER AND FALL OF 2009; THE VAN HALEN TOUR
- OCTOBER 2009: GUNS N' ROSES IS SUED FOR PLAGIARIZING
- OPENERS FOR THE 2010 CHINESE DEMOCRACY WORLD TOUR
- NOVEMBER 18, 2009: DIZZY RELEASES 'AMAZING GRACE: THE BEST OF CHRISTMAS PIANO MUSIC'
- DECEMBER 9, 2009: AXL FIGHTS A PAPARAZZI AT LAX
- DECEMBER 11-19, 2009: THE CHINESE DEMOCRACY WORLD TOUR STARTS - SHOWS IN TAIWAN, SOUTH KOREA AND JAPAN
- SCRAPED
- PROSTITUTE
- CATCHER IN THE RYE
- SORRY
- DECEMBER 2009: FRONT LINE MANAGEMENT IS OUT
- JANUARY 13, 2010: THE NORTH AMERICAN TOURS STARTS IN WINNIPEG, CANADA
- JANUARY 13, 2010: AXL REACTS TO REUNION RUMOURS
- JANUARY 16-20, 2010: THE CANADIAN LEG OF THE TOUR CONTINUES
- SLASH APPAREL BEING BANNED AT GUNS N' ROSES SHOWS?
- JANUARY 24, 2010: COPPS COLISEUM IN HAMILTON; DJ GETS THROWN OUT OF HOTEL
- JANUARY 25-FEBRUARY 4, 2010: THE CANADIAN LEG OF THE TOUR FINISHES
- 2009-: WORK ON NEW MUSIC?
- FEBRUARY 11, 2010: THE BAND PLAYS A SECRET SHOW AT THE JOHN VARVATOS STORE IN NYC
- FEBRUARY 14, 2010: THE BAND PLAYS A SECRET SHOW AT THE ROSE BAR IN NYC
- FEBRUARY 2010: DOC MCGEE BECOMES THE BAND'S NEW MANAGER
- MARCH 7 AND 10, 2010: THE LATIN AMERICAN TOUR STARTS
- MARCH 9, 2010: DALE "RAGE" RESTEGHNINI IS HIRED TO PHOTOGRAPH THE TOUR
- THE SOLO SPOTS
- MARCH 12, 2010: ANGRY FANS IN BRAZIL RIOT WHEN SECRET SHOW DOESN'T HAPPEN
- MARCH 13-22, 2010: THE LATIN AMERICAN TOUR CONTINUES
- ADDITIONAL MUSIC VIDEOS FROM CHINESE DEMOCRACY?
- MARCH 24, 2010: AZOFF SUES AXL
- MARCH 25-APRIL 15, 2010: THE LATIN AMERICAN TOUR CONCLUDES
- LOOKING BACK AT THE LATIN AMERICAN TOUR OF 2010
- NEW BAND MEMBERS TALKING AND INTERACTING WITH OLD BAND MEMBERS


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BAND MEMBERS ARE KEPT IN THE DARK


Being asked to comment on the fact that band members seem to be updated on a need-to-know basis:

I could inquire and probably find out a lot more, but I’m kinda happy doing things this way. It’s the whole “ignorance is bliss” concept. I don’t want to know things until I have to know them. In fact, my brain is so overloaded with everything right now that I want to know less. That way I can focus on just making music, and nothing else. I’d rather just wait until I’m right up to that bridge, and then I’ll cross it.

I can't say what the future holds, like what I was saying before - some things are unfinished bizz, other things I don't know the most-current status of, and I'm content often with *not* knowing - I don't want to micro-manage GNR, I want to write, record, perform, connect...  that should be my place.

I don’t try to know anything. My philosophy as time goes on is swinging more towards 'ignorance is bliss.' The less I know the happier I am. I don’t want to know a damn thing except tell me when to get on stage and play.

[Being asked what the band will do after the ongoing tour]: What is next? You have no idea, you never know what is next with this thing, anything can happen.


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FEBRUARY-MARCH 2009
AUDITIONING NEW GUITAR PLAYERS


With the tour being planned and it becoming clear Robin would not participate, the band auditioned new guitar players to replace him.

On February 13, 18-year old guitarist Nick Sterling would audition [GN'R Daily, February 14, 2009]. Around the same time, Ryan Roxie and Michael Lee Firkins would also get a chance to audition for the band [Metal Sludge (via GN'R Daily), March 8, 2009]. Roxie had played with Alice Cooper and Gilby previously and had also been Slash's choice to replace Gilby in 1996 (and would eventually join Slash's Snakepit).

Firkins' audition would later be confirmed by another guitarist Jason Becker, who shared a story about it:

Michael Lee Firkins told me he auditioned for GNR. Axl was sitting in the dark. He told Firkins that he used the whammy bar too much. HA HA! That made me lose a lot of respect for Axl. He obviously has no ear for brilliant and unique guitar playing. I think he blew it by not hiring Firkins.
Metal Sludge, March 3, 2009


Another guitarist that was rumoured to have auditioned, was Dj Ashba from SIXX AM [Metal Sludge, March 17, 2009].
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MARCH 21, 2009
DJ ASHBA JOINS GUNS N' ROSES
 

Being asked who would replace Robin:



On March 21, 2009, Guns N' Roses would post a press statement on their site saying Robin had been replaced by Dj Ashba [gunsnroses.com, March 21, 2009]. In the press statement, both Axl and Dj would comment on the new addition to the band:

Dj's a gifted, energetic guitarist that Guns N' Roses is proud to have on board!! We're very excited to have the opportunity to work together. Guns' radar has silently been aware of Dj's presence for quite some time. He brings a fresh approach to our particular brand of mayhem expanding the tapestry of Guns N' Roses live. Once Dj's name was in the hat, the hat disappeared!

It's an honor to have the opportunity to be a part of a band that I have always loved and respected. I'm looking forward to working with Axl, who is not only one of the few great front men of our generation, but a true artist.




Dj Ashba



Not long after Chris would comment on the Dj joining:

[...] GNR has just added DJ Ashba as a guitarist, and he's great to have around, and I think the fans will really dig our new vibe!


And after the rehearsals later in the year, Bumblefoot would chime in:

[The rehearsals] went great! He is a damn good guy to be in a band with. He gives a lot of himself and adds a lot of himself to every aspect of it. He gets involved artistically. He’s a damn good guy. I’ve enjoyed getting to know him and playing with him. And working through the insanity of getting the stuff down with him. Now, I’m just really looking forward to getting on stage with him.

DJ's a very cool guy, with so many talents, he's more than a guitar player, and I look forward to gettin' in the trenches with him.


About a year later, while touring in South America, Dj would again talk about having joined the band:

[...] it's a dream come true. I come from a little town in Indiana called Monticello and - not far from our Axl's from actually. It's weird you know, I grew up watching Guns N' Roses and learning all their songs and, you know, if you would have told me back then that I was going to be the guitar player in Guns N' Roses [?] But, you know, everything happens for a reason and I'm thankful, I couldn't be in a better situation. Axl is, you know, one of my best friends, just one of greatest guys out there.


And Bumblefoot would talk about how he was fitting in:

We spent a lot of time, working out our parts and our sound and our gear to make sure that everything sounded as good as they can together. I think it's fantastic. I think the fans are really happy. We put on a great shows. He's doing great.


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DJ BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES
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APRIL 14, 2009
A ROCK BAND CHINESE DEMOCRACY RELEASE


There is talk about a "Rock Band" release, and they felt the record-based on the nature and complexity of the depth of instrumentation-deserved a bit more attention and some more involved elements than they've generally dealt with. I have no idea what that means but it's my understanding they were very enthusiastic. We're looking at a Feb. 28 release, according to [executives at MTV responsible for] "Rock Band."


On April 10 it was announced that all the 13 songs from Chinese Democracy would be available for download to Rock Band from April 14 [Press Release, April 10, 2009]
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APRIL-JUNE AND SEPTEMBER 2009
PREPARING FOR
THE CHINESE DEMOCRACY WORLD TOUR


In April 2009, the live front-of-house (FOH) engineer for Guns N' Roses, Ken "The Pooch" Van Druten, would talk about the band's preparations for the upcoming tour:

Right now we're in rehearsals, and we are gonna be here probably for a month and a half or so getting ready to do a tour.


Bumblefoot would look back at the preparations and say he had been part of them in early 2009 and in the fall of 2009:

In early '09 I spent a few months in LA working with GNR, prepping for future touring. Took a break from that and toured the Summer with Lita Ford, then continued in the Fall with GNR, tweaking the live show [...]

We started working together in early 2009, working out guitar parts that would compliment each other, experimenting with different guitars and amps for sounds that worked well together. DJ, Rich & I did that for a few months out in LA, then we took a break over the Summer, I toured as a guest guitarist with Lita Ford for festivals in the US and Europe, then we started up again in September and GNR hit the road in December. We've been having a blast....!


Bumblefoot would also discuss how different it had been for Dj to prepare for the tour in 2009 than for him to prepare for the touring in 2006:

We had most of 2009 to coordinate our guitar parts, our gear, to get everything ready to go. Very different from my 'new guy' experience, which was to hop in at the last minute before touring with no time to work out gear, to get to know each other, to work together on anything, to learn the new songs...shit, I had to learn the Chinese Democracy songs note-for-note by listening with headphones on a laptop for a half hour at a rehearsal studio while the band waited in the next room, without ever getting a copy of the songs to really learn them. I'm happy it didn't happen like that for DJ - he was welcomed in, we had time to work together, and he was given the opportunity to rise to the occasion, and he definitely did.

DJ had joined the band, and we spent a lot of time really making sure that when we started touring again we'd be very prepared. We made sure the guitar parts were perfectly coordinated, and that our tones and sound and gear were complimentary to each other. That everyone would stand out in their own place without stepping on anyone, so the sound wouldn't get too messy. Compliments to the front house guys, 'cause they're a big part of that. They put something a little forward and something a little back, making it as good as it could ever sound.


This indicates that the band first prepared for a summer/fall tour, and when that didn't happen, reconvened to prepare again before the shows in December.

We spent a lot of '09 in a rehearsal room jamming, trying different gear, working out our guitar parts.


Bumblefoot would also appreciate the opportunity to prepare better than he had back in 2006, and would even have Vigier make a twin neck guitar for him:

By the time we started touring again it gave me a chance to really prepare the proper way to pull off these songs and that's when I had the Vigier guys make the double neck so I could do all the fretless and the fretted back and forth in one song, I'll sing it back and vocals and you know, have a snare drum on my ass and, you know, cymbals between the legs and tap dancing.


On April 27, Richard would suggest they would tour the rest of the world before the US:

I've been in rehearsals with Guns for the last little bit here — focusing more on that world right now. . . We, hopefully, will be announcing dates soon, I hope. I don't know of any dates in the U.S. yet; I haven't heard any talk. I'm sure that we will . . . Right now that's not where the focus is; I know that we're gonna be probably announcing other dates first.


With the band preparing for touring new rumours about specific events would pop up, including a rumoured show in Israel in July or August [The Jerusalem Post, May 14, 2009].

Later, Vince Neil would claim Axl never showed up for the three months of preparations:

A buddy of mine went to go play guitar for him. They rehearsed for three months and Axl never once turned up. Rule number one: show up!
The Sun, August 19, 2009


The friend Neil was referring to was likely Dj Ashba.

At the end of May, Bumblefoot would be asked about the plans:

Right now nothing is confirmed. Nothing is definite. If pieces fall into place, it could happen. That's the most political way I can say I know nothing. (Laughs) In other words, it could happen, I hope it happens, maybe it'll happen, I'd like for it to happen. I know a lot of other people who would like for it to happen, and if everything works out it will happen. But there are a lot of variables involved, down to every little thing to making sure that all the pieces are in place so that we can do this the right way.


The tour would not start immediately after the preparations, because in June it was a announced that Bumblefoot would tour with Lita Ford from mid-June to early September [Blabbermouth, June 7, 2009].

Lita and I have GN'R's blessings to do this together; all is cool. This won't interfere with upcoming GN'R plans, I'll be flying out and coming right back.


And Frank would return to New York:

Well Guns got back together again earlier this year. We hooked up with Dj Ashba, he's playing in the band. Rehearsals were going great. Decided to take a little break so we could take care of our own family stuff because we were in L.A. for a long time. So and hopefully, God willing, will be up again running soon.


Later, Bumblefoot would talk about video Q&As that had been planned to happen during the rehearsals but ultimately didn't happen:

We were gonna do videos answering fan questions, had every intention of doing it, had mine all planned out - I was gonna soft-spokenly answer every question, very calmly, while 20 feet behind me there's a woman screaming bloody murder, giving birth. It was really fucking disturbing, and so contrasted and bizarre, it was just really fucked up. That's how your mind works after months of rehearsals and living in the same hotel room for almost 100 days.  The band accomplished plenty in that time - new guitar rigs, new guitars, new gear all getting worked out, new songs being worked on and sounding better than we ever have, DJ being a great guy and a wonderful bandmate, but the rehearsals ended before I could get everything and everyone together to make my video happen. I'm sorry about leading y'all on and not getting it done.


After the tour rehearsals, Bumblefoot would talk about Dj fitting in:

[The rehearsals] went great! He is a damn good guy to be in a band with. He gives a lot of himself and adds a lot of himself to every aspect of it. He gets involved artistically. He’s a damn good guy. I’ve enjoyed getting to know him and playing with him. And working through the insanity of getting the stuff down with him. Now, I’m just really looking forward to getting on stage with him.


And on rearranging songs for three guitars:

We had a fourth guitarist but he forgot his passport at home, we had to tour without him. Three guitarists is easy. There’s so much more you can do with three guitarists than two. For example, you can stand in a triangle formation. You can do great old-school metal covers with the double-harmony leads – Maiden, Priest, Queensryche, or classic stuff like Thin Lizzy and Boston. There’s almost enough of us to make ‘light bulb jokes’ (you know, “How many guitarists does it take to unscrew a light bulb…?”) And if one spontaneously quits and walks off the stage, you won’t even notice. I’ve tried that, it works!



BOTH BRAIN AND FRANK TO TOUR?


In an interview conducted in July 2010, Brain would be asked why the plan to have both he and Frank tour in 2009/2010, with Brain playing the new songs and Frank the old songs, didn't come to fruition:

I guess they couldn't pull it!


And he would later mention that he had not been part of the 2009 rehearsals:

no i didn't rehearse


This suggests that a plan involving both Brain and Frank, regardless of how serious and mature it became, was discarded before the band reconvened in April 2009.


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JUNE-SEPTEMBER 2009
BUMBLEFOOT TOURS WITH LITA FORD


In June it was a announced that Bumblefoot would tour with Lita Ford from mid-June to early September [Blabbermouth, June 7, 2009]. This likely came as a result of the summer tour with Guns N' Roses not taking place.

Lita and I have GN'R's blessings to do this together; all is cool. This won't interfere with upcoming GN'R plans, I'll be flying out and coming right back.

I'm really looking forward to getting out on the road with Bumblefoot. It only took a couple of practices before we really connected — and that hardly ever happens. I've played with some terrific musicians, but this combination is really something special. [...] I was so impressed by the different styles I heard from him," says Lita, by way of explaining her decision to team with Bumblefoot. "He can be really heavy one minute and totally subtle the next. It gives us an extra dimension.

I met [Lita Ford] a couple of times and hung out over a year before we started playing together. We would hang at mutual friends’ barbeques or the Chiller Exposition (being in the same room.) They are such a trip. Lita and the family are great! I had so much fun on tour with them. On how I got involved, she just did Sweden Rock and she called me right from there and asked me if I was going to be free? By coincidence we were taking a break for the summer from GNR and I was like 'I can definitely do the summer with ya.' She gave me a list of songs and had 2 days to bang it out and learn all the stuff. We had one rehearsal at her house and went through all the stuff and we hit the road. That was probably some of the most fun I had while on tour.


Bumblefoot would also say he had desperately needed the tour to get away from Guns N' Roses to something low pressure:

[Ford] called me and asked with a playful tone, what I would do over the next ten years. I said that I'll be little busy... Then she asked, if we can talk about this summer, as she needed guitarist for a tour. I had no plans at this point, so I said there's no problem. In about two days I learned around 15 songs. She needed a drummer and a bassist, so we took together with us my bands' drummer - Dennis Leeflang and bass player, PJ Farley, who appeared in such bands like Trixter and Ra. First we flew out to California, started doing shows and then we went to Spain, Germany, Italy, Greece, then back to the US. It was really a good time. It was very spontaneous, it was different than Guns N' Roses. We might extended songs for like extra 5 minutes, when me and Lita and keyboard player we just be trading solos back and forth. And just come up whatever on the spot. It's been such a long time since I toured doing something that wasn't Guns N' Roses, where it was just me playing guitar a bunch of songs and if I wanted extend the song I could. It was just plugging my guitar and amp. I wasn't all wired up, I didn't have wireless, I didn't have in-ear monitors. It just felt so normal! And it was what I needed (laugh). Definitely, I probably would not been able to stay with Guns N' Roses and tour with them, if I didn't do that, because I needed something that was just low pressure, just very simple. We go on on time, we plug in to an amp and we play. It was a good experience and for me it was definitely something that brought my brain back to were it needed to be.


Being asked how the tour went:

Fantastic. There with lots of old friends, Dennis (Bumblefoot drummer) on drums, get to do a lot of spontaneous jamming and trading solos with Lita, been a great time.

Haha, that was some fun stuff! Learned the songs in 2 days, got together once and hit the road. Lita and her family, the band and crew, a lot of laughing and making trouble, haha. Good bunch of people... musically there was a lot of jamming and trading solos between Lita me and the keyboardist, spontaneous stuff, it was a damn good time.

I had a lot of fun on the Lita tour, it was with my solo band drummer Dennis Leeflang, and friends of mine – there was a lot of laughing and fun. [...] With Lita we usually had a rented Marshall half-stack and a Les Paul waiting for me at gigs, and I’d bring one of my Vigier guitars, a wah pedal, a Tube Screamer & a Boss delay pedal. Sometimes we’d have an Engl Invader100 head whenever possible, which is what I use with GNR.


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AUGUST-NOVEMBER 2009
TOUR RUMOURS AND CONFIRMATION


In August it would be rumoured that the band would tour Asia in December after a Taiwanese booking agency published a Guns N' Roses concert date at Taipei County Stadium on December 11 [GN'R Daily, August 19, 2009].

Later in August Bumblefoot would be asked about touring plans:

There have been a lot of plans, it’s just that when it comes to battling the economy… there are so many variables that could make it not work. I’m guessing at this point that if something is confirmed, management would let everyone know. So at this point if I said anything it would be premature, so I should just wait for them to say anything.


Afterwards, Bumblefoot felt a need to comment on what he had said:

Regarding the end of the interview about GN'R touring, it came off in the printed transcription to sound like I was citing the economy like some lame excuse...

"It’s just that when it comes to battling the economy ... there are so many variables that could make it not work."

I wasn't saying the sole reason GN'R hadn't toured was due to the economy, or the economy only - folks gotta read the whole sentence, up to where it ends with a period.

You know, the period. As in "I'm complaining about Ron's interview because I have my period."

There are "many variables that could make it not work."

In other words, as I've been telling everyone for years, I don't give any specific info about GN'R's business in my own personal interviews.

Don't ask Azoff about my guitar parts, don't ask me about GN'R's business.
The BumbleForum, September 20, 2009


The rumours about the band touring in Asia intensified in September with dates for Japan, Osaka on December 16 and Tokyo on December 19 [Blabbermouth, September 10, 2009]. Then, September 14, the Japanese dates were confirmed by the Japanese branch of Universal Music [Blabbermouth, September 14, 2009].

A few days later, Bumblefoot would again emphasize that he was not the right guy to ask about the band's plans:

Hundreds of people have been writing, wanting to know about GNR's future touring plans. I'm not the guy to ask about ongoing bizz - if anyone, you'd have to ask GNR management about future plans, but please understand that if they haven't officially announced plans, they're not going to do it through personal emails. As for me, I'm not at business meetings with booking agents, promoters, venues, sponsors, and *I don't want to be*. Being the guitarist in GNR is enough, not going to open the door to managerial duties. If GNR management confirmed that everything did-or-did-not work out to make any shows happen, and I was 100% sure that I had the confirmed final developments on things, and if it wouldn't screw up how GNR wanted to announce things, only then would I comment. Anything sooner than that would be spreading information prematurely and could be setting up fans for disappointment, and could affect the outcome of deals that were still being worked on. When GNR management is able to confirm anything, they will do it, in the way they feel is best, when they feel the time is right. Until then, think about other things. Build a cardhouse. Fry an egg. Read a book by a tree. When GNR management is ready to announce accurate definite information, they will.

Thanks to everyone that reached out wanting to know. You've been a pain in my ass, and I love you for it. Out of decency to fans, knowing many are ready to rearrange their plans and put a lot of effort into being at shows, I hope any confirmations can come sooner than later... some of you have plane tickets to book, time off from work to plan, tickets to save up for - I appreciate the Hell out of it and am grateful for it and will do my best to make it worth it, given the chance. Thanks.....


On September 24, a show in South Korea on December 13 was added to the list [GN'R Daily, September 24, 2009]. But still the shows had not been officially announced by the band.



Concert poster from AllAccess.co.kris



In October, MusicRadar would contact LiveNation in Canada and got confirmation that the band would tour Canada early in 2010, from January 13 to February 4 [MusicRadar, October 19, 2009].

On November 10, the band's MySpace page was finally updated with the rumoured concert dates.

Being asked why it had taken more than a years since the release of Chinese Democracy to get out on tour:

There were other possible or potential tours or itineraries in the works that just didn’t happen for whatever reason. This one did though. Why? (laughs) I don’t try to know anything. My philosophy as time goes on is swinging more towards 'ignorance is bliss.' The less I know the happier I am. I don’t want to know a damn thing except tell me when to get on stage and play.


Being asked what the fans can expect from the tour:

I can't give anything away as we are trying to keep it a surprise until we do it. We will be playing a lot of old stuff, newer stuff, a lot of bombs n' pyro (laughs.) I'm dodging the question – you know, the stuff you see at a big rock show.

We have shows planned for Japan, Korea and Taiwan in December '09, hopefully everything will work out.


In late December, the Brazil edition of Rolling Stone magazine would announce that the band would tour Brazil in March 2010 [Rolling Stone Brazil, December 22, 2009] and a few days later concerts in Colombia, Uruguay, Peru, Argentina and Chile would be announced also for March 2010 [GN'R Daily, December 24, 2009; Living in Peru, December 29, 2009].

For the South American leg of the tour, it was first reported that Jane's Addiction would be the opener, but this was later stated to not be the case by GN'R's twitter: [Twitter, December 29, 2009].

Contrary 2 false reports, claims n' rumors, Jane's Addiction is "not" performing on the Guns N' Roses South American leg of r Chinese Democracy World Tour. Sometimes agents n' promoters get carried away w/things on their own. R apologies 4 any confusion. Happy New Year!!


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MISSED TOURING IN THE SUMMER AND FALL OF 2009; THE VAN HALEN TOUR


In the first half of 2010 there were rumours that Guns N' Roses would embark on a fall 2009 tour with Van Halen, and this would have fit with the band doing extensive tour rehearsals in April-June. In the end, the band would start touring first in December 2009 and the Van Halen tour never materialized.

Bumblefoot would refer to the missed tours:

The band still exists, I've spent much of 2009 in rehearsal rooms with them, preparing for tours that unfortunately didn't happen.


In Axl's counter-lawsuit against Azoff from May 2010, Axl would claim that the band had planned a summer tour followed by a tour with Van Halen, but that Azoff had deliberately sabotaged this to force Axl to reunite:

Azoff's pattern of lies and deception continued. In 2009, Azoff repeatedly advised the band that he had arranged a stadium concert tour with another very prominent rock band, Van Halen. [...]

Guns N’ Roses was also planning to do a summer European tour before the Van Halen stadium tour. The band was in rehearsals, prepared a budget and began working on routing. However, Cross-Defendants told Rose not to go forward with the summer European tour because they were afraid that Guns N’ Roses would not return in time for the Van Halen stadium tour. So the band decided to forego the European tour because of the promised Van Halen, stadium tour resulting in substantial losses.

This was all in vain. The tour with Van Halen never happened. As the band later discovered, Azoff made no efforts to plan the tour. He misled the band with false promises to further his own agenda, which was to force a reunion tour with the original Guns N' Roses band members against Rose’s wishes.


More on Axl's allegations against Azoff in a later chapter.


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OCTOBER 2009
GUNS N' ROSES IS SUED FOR PLAGIARIZING


In October 2009, two independent record labels sued Guns N' Roses for allegedly having copied portions of two songs by German electronic musician Ulrich Schnauss in the song Riad N' The Bedouins [Reuters, October 5, 2009]. The two songs by Schnauss were Wherever You Are and A Strangely Isolated Place [Reuters, October 5, 2009]. The lawsuit sought $1 million in damages [Reuters, October 5, 2009].

Rolling Stone would comment on the lawsuit:

[...] after a few listens, it sounds like Domino and Independiente [the record labels] are going to have their work cut out for them in proving their case. Whereas there was a clear, though unintentional, melodic similarity between Joe Satriani’s “If I Could Fly” and Coldplay’s “Viva La Vida,” the Schnauss lawsuit focuses on 45 seconds of ambient soundscapes at the beginning of “Riad N’ the Bedouins,” before the song breaks into full guitar assault that shares no resemblance to Schnauss’ body of work.


The following day, Irving Azoff would make a statement:

The band believed when the record came out and still believes that there are no unauthorized samples on the track. The snippets of ‘ambient noise’ in question were provided by a member of the album’s production team who has assured us that these few seconds of sound were obtained legitimately. Artists these days can’t read the minds of those they collaborate with and therefore are unfortunately vulnerable to claims like this one. While the band resents the implication that they would ever use another artist’s work improperly and are assessing possible counterclaims, they are confident this situation will be satisfactorily resolved.


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OPENERS FOR THE
2010 CHINESE DEMOCRACY WORLD TOUR


In October 2010 it was reported that Danko Jones and Sebastian Bach would be the openers for the forthcoming Canadian leg of the Chinese Democracy World Tour to take place in January and February 2010 [GN'R Daily, October 29, 2009].

With the news, Sebastian Bach would release the following statement:

Well, what can I say. What a long, strange trip it's been.

As I type this, I just cannot believe that I am announcing to all of you that yes, we will be going on the road with Guns N' fucking Roses in my hometown country of Canada in January and February of 2010!!!!

Wow. It felt really, really good to type that sentence.

It's time to sit back and realize, hey, we have been doing this a long time. From Guns N' Roses taking us on tour in North America and Europe in 1991, Australia and New Zealand in 1993, taking us out again in America, Europe, and Canada in 2006, Axl Rose and myself recording 'Sorry' for 'Chinese Democracy' and 'Back In The Saddle', '(Love Is) A Bitchslap' and 'Stuck Inside' for my album 'Angel Down', taking us out again in Australia and New Zealand in 2007....

Are you noticing a theme here? Loyalty? Friendship? Commitment? Passion? For rock n' roll. For life. For fun. For you, the rock fans who make it all possible. For the love of music, having a good time, and kicking out the motherfucking jams.

Of course, none of this would be possible without the vision and generosity of one single man: Mr. Axl Rose. A man I am so unbelievably proud, and fortunate, to call my friend. A man whose unwavering voice, lyrics, and vision have been the soundtrack to our lives for more than 20 years now.

I cannot wait to stand at the side of the stage every night, waiting for my favorite song, 'Street Of Dreams', to come around in the set. I cannot wait for the camaraderie, fun, and sense of purpose the road brings. I cannot wait to scream my fucking guts out into a microphone in the biggest cities, on the biggest stages, that my hometown country has to offer. I can't wait to see all my friends and family at the shows in Canada.

One thing's for sure: I don't have to wait long!!

C'ya soon Canada!! It's time to rock again!! I love it.


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NOVEMBER 18, 2009
DIZZY RELEASES 'AMAZING GRACE: THE BEST OF CHRISTMAS PIANO MUSIC'


"Amazing Grace: The Best of Christmas Piano Music" is a solo piano exploration of traditional Christmas carols, performed by renowned musician Dizzy Reed. Best known for his long and ongoing tenure as the keyboardist for Guns N' Roses, Dizzy is an accomplished pianist with deep-rooted musicianship. This recording is a return to his beginnings as a musician, when Dizzy learned Christmas carols from his grandmother on the family organ. Played with remarkable sensitivity, a delicate touch, and a few splashes of rock 'n' roll power, this collection of performances is a perfect addition to your holiday season.

"Amazing Grace: The Best of Christmas Piano Music" is a production of Inner Splendor Media, a recording company that specializes in pure, simple, elemental and beautiful music found all over the world. "The Best of Christmas Piano Music" is the one of two new collections of Christmas music released by the company in late 2009.




Amazing Grace: The Best of
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DECEMBER 9, 2009
AXL FIGHTS A PAPARAZZI AT LAX


[Sean Penn is] great. Bad Boys is one of my favourite films of all time. I’ve got nothing against hitting a photographer if he’s being an asshole.
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As Axl with his entourage was going through LAX on December 9, 2009, before boarding their flight to Taiwan, he got into a fight with a paparazzi [LiveDaily, December 10, 2009]. From the footage that exists, an agitated Axl can be seen warning someone against touching someone in his entourage, presumably Beta. The camera then pans towards a scuffle between Beta and a man as Axl moves quickly towards the man and knocks him down. As Axl is restrained by his entourage, he yells out, "He hit my mother!"



Axl being restrained; Fernando Lebeis in front
LAX, December 9, 2009



The next day, Levine Communications Office, an LA-based PR office that represented Axl and Guns N' Roses, published the following statement:

Axl Rose, lead singer for the legendary rock group Guns N’ Roses, was unhurt last evening when he was accosted by an unruly group of paparazzi at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX).

At the time of the incident, Mr. Rose was en-route to Taipei, Taiwan, to kick-off Guns N’ Roses’ tour of Southeast Asia including shows in Taiwan, Korea and Japan.

Mr. Rose, who was about to enter a security checkpoint at LAX when the altercation took place, was approached by a group of unchecked and unruly photographers who became aggressive with the singer and female members of the traveling group.

Mr. Rose was not injured during the unprovoked attack and was able to board his flight without further incident.


A few days later, Axl would himself release s statement, distancing himself from the statement sent out from Levine Communications:

I did not release any statement or authorize either any statement or anyone to release a statement regarding anything at any airport anywhere.

We had recently began working with newer individuals in management in relation to our current Asian tour in support of our Guns N' Roses album "Chinese Democracy" in addition to Irving Azoff's though as it happens we are once again touring Asia without management of any kind.

Imo this non sense may be some type of manufactured or publicity stunt.

We're looking forward to performing in Osaka and Tokyo Japan doubling our pyro show and with our "new" full stage as local requirement have limited us on its use in our last performances.

Thanks to everyone who's come out to see us. It's been really fun so far and the addition of our new guitarist Dj Ashba joining us along w/ guitarists Ron Bumblefoot Thal and Richard Fortus, gives the night a kick in the pants.

Hope to see the rest of you soon!!

And to any publications running this; please feel free to tack on whatever negative agenda supporting nonsense you generally do (You know who you are!!). After all it's only someone else's livelihood you media police state, no fun, spoil sport, communist bastards.

Peace!!


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DECEMBER 11-19, 2009
THE CHINESE DEMOCRACY WORLD TOUR STARTS
- SHOWS IN TAIWAN, SOUTH KOREA AND JAPAN


On December 11, 2009, the band started the Chinese Democracy World Tour with a show at the Taipei County Stadium in Taipei, Taiwan. This was the first show since 2007 and the release of Chinese Democracy, and the first show with Dj in the band. The set opened with Chinese Democracy, a break from Welcome to the Jungle which had been the opener since 2001. The band also debuted three new songs off Chinese Democracy, Shackler's Revenge, This I Love and If The World, in addition to playing a new cover song My Generation, with Tommy on vocals.

What a way to kick things off!! What an amazing time!! Thank U Taipei!! Thank U Taiwan!! Thanks 2 everyone 4 all the incredible support n' positive comments!! "Talkin' About"...Tommy Fuckin' Stinson! The best December Rain ever!! Hope 2 see U again!! Wanna tear it up in Korea!!
twitter, December 12, 2009

It was surreal because we'd been rehearsing for a few months [...] [Axl] walks out on stage in Japan [sic] and it as ON!
kfmx.com, May 2012


The next show was on December 13 at the Olympic Gymnastics Arena in Seoul, South Korea. Before the gig, Axl was interviewed by a Korean newspaper:

With [the] show coming up, we've received a lot of comments from Korean fans on MySpace and on our website. There are also requests for us to make sure we play specific songs. We plan to play some songs that were not included in the setlist originally planned for this tour. Korea is a country I always wanted to visit, and only now I've had the chance. I can't wait to meet the fans.


Axl would joke self-deprecatingly during the show:

Seoul, Korea! Very good to be here with you tonight, thank you for havin' us! Come on, tell me the truth, you didn't think I was coming, did you?
Onstage in Seoul, December 14, 2009


The show would feature the debut of Sorry.

After the show Bumblefoot and Axl would state:

Seoul, S. Korea!! Fantastic energy w/the fans! They really took over KOHD. Hearing'em singing along w/Better was a surprise! It was fun playin' Sorry live n' my bad not goin' longer. A few mixups n' gear needed 2 ship but it feels good sortin' out the sheeot. It's such a different animal in the heat of the moment n' gettin' into our reformulated chemistry! 1st indoor gig w/new staging! R in-ear mix was like listenin' to an old AM transistor radio somewhere between bein' in a barrel of toxic waste at the bottom of the ocean or while takin' a "dump" in a tin shitter while a pack of Zombies r beatin' on it with iron pipes! Ha!! Soon as we can stop ingesting this Korean BBQ (Shoutout 2 the 2Jens!!) it's on to Osaka, JP where we got r own brand of KamiKaze 2 unleash!!
Twitter, December 14, 2009

Heeeey, just got to Osaka - the last two shows were such a pleasure, feels damn good to be back on the road," Bumblefoot told RockStar Weekly. "It's all a blur, and I like keeping it that way, only thinking about the next show, not the last show. But ya move ahead with a feeling that something special was shared in each place, makes it feel like coming home any time ya return. Now I have that connection to Taipei and Seoul that will always be there. It's the warmth and kindness of everyone there, they made it special, I can't thank them enough... looking forward to playing Osaka and Tokyo again this week, and starting off 2010 with Canada - see y'all soon!


The next show took place on December 16 at the Kyocera Dome Osaka in Osaka, Japan. For this show, the band would debut 'Prostitute', 'Scraped' and 'Catcher in the Rye'.

The show was a long one, leading Axl to tweet:

WTF was that?!? 3hrs 17minutes!!! A little carried away?!? Had no idea, time flies!! Just getting on that horse!! Anyway... Hope everyone had fun n' enjoyed the show. Can't believe we played Whole Lotta Rosie! Complete spur of the moment n' we hadn't played it b4 (at least together) catched a train to Tokyo!! Gettin' excited to play already!
Twitter, December 17, 2009


The final show of the short Asian leg took place on December 19 at the Tokyo Dome in Tokyo, Japan.

The day before the show Axl tweeted:

Tokyo!! Good to be back!! Complete w/a refreshing n' now traditional complimentary morning earthquake!! Yeah boyeee!! We wanna shake some shit up 2moro nite!! I wanna thank everyone 4 comin' out on r Asian Invasian GN'R "Bar Trek". To boldly go where we'd last been n' hadn't been b4!! Means a lot!! It was pure n' utter chaos gettin' this rollin' n' you've made it all worth it!! Such amazing n' supportive people everywhere!! Thank u again 2 everyone who came out n' everyone who helped pull this together. Special thanks 2 Matzka, Gum X n' Mucc 4 their enthusiasm n' great jobs performing w/us!! See everyone that's down w/the Tokyo Dome here 2moro nite where in addition 2 Mucc, AK48 just added will also be opening!! Peace!!
Twitter, December 18, 2009


The show was a really long one, clocking in on 3 hours and 37 minutes.

Longest GNR show ever - 3 hours, 37 minutes. Thanks sooo much to everyone in Taipei, Seoul, Osaka and Tokyo for making this tour kick ass!
Twitter, December 19, 2009

In Tokyo, we broke the all-time Guns record for the longest show. I think it was around three hours and 47 minutes.
Saratogian Mobile, November 2011

The one in Japan where we just played, and played, and played? I would love to do that every fucking night. That was so cool. It started to happen in Osaka, where we ended up playing three hours and seventeen minutes. We have a list of songs that's sort of like a set list, but we just call them out. There's a little microphone on the stage that only we hear, and someone will go up to it - Tommy or Axl - and say "Hey, what do you wanna do next?". One of us will then just mention a song, and they'll say "Yeah, cool", and we'll go into that one. I remember I started playing the riff to "Whole Lotta Rosie" from AC/DC, because we're all huge AC/DC fans, and then Axl started singing. I thought "Oh, cool. We'll keep going", and we ended up playing the whole song, and then we did it again in Tokyo. That was just completely spontaneous, and it was the same thing when Tommy started playing "My Generation" - we all jumped in, and just played that song. One night, he said "Yeah, let's do "Sonic Reducer" from The Dead Boys". I said "Hell yeah", and we just busted that out (laughs).

Even my solo I started doing. I wasn't even gonna play a solo - I fucking hate taking a solo (laughs). I would rather play another song, and that's why I started doing the "Don't Cry" singalong thing with the audience as my solo, because I care more about the song and the music and all that than the soloing and the spotlight. I'm not in it for the spotlight. I'm a song guy. You wouldn't think so with all the noodling I do, but I'm in it for the music. At the very last minute... it was three days before we were heading out (laughs). I thought "Alright, I gotta think about a solo", and then I thought "You know what? How about the 'Pink Panther' theme? Nobody's done that, right?". I just came up with an arrangement, we all worked it out, and we did that, so a lot of things were just very spontaneous.

One night in Tokyo Axl said he wanted to sing [Don't Cry] with me...cool. So we did; it was real nice. Now every once in a while we'll bust it out.

[...] we were just playing and playing. When you're onstage, you forget how long you're there and it all becomes a blur. It could be a 4 hours and you know it for one hour or four. I'm used to be in rehearsal room playing for 10 hours. But yeah it was good. We just kept playing more songs. Axl would say "What do you feel like playing next?" and I'd played intro to "Whole Lotta Rosie" and we started doing that from AC/DC. "What do you feel like doing next?" So someone would say "Let's do this one off Chinese". We ended doing 13 out of 14 songs of Chinese Democracy. It's a lot of fun playing the Chinese songs for me. I have a double neck guitar with the fretted and fretless and I'm switching from one neck to the other one, while singing, so it definitely keeps my brain busy. If anything is harder for me is running on the stage, because I have a 30 pounds guitar. But yeah, it's very solid, strong musical show.


Discussing the band playing Whole Lotta Rosie:

That was Axl's idea. Occasionally we guitarists starts playing a riff and some times he goes with it, as he did that night. We ended up with a really fun party jam, and since then we have played it now and then.


Looking back at the Asian leg of the tour:

Fucking amazing. Playing Korea for the first time, playing for hours in Japan, and as always the people were so kind, it was a great thing. Finally got to bust out the double-neck and new gear and play the songs appropriately. It's good to finally be able to do this the way it was meant to be done.

The Asian tour was fucking phenomenal. It's been a year since 'Chinese Democracy' came out, so I had no idea what to expect. I really didn't know how the reception would be, and it was more positive than any other tour from my experience. To me, this was better. Just everything felt right. The sound was better, and the way we interacted onstage with the audience - just everything felt right. We were having a real good time up there, and DJ, this was his first time doing shows with us after spending a whole year together on and off just rehearsing, and working out stuff, and hanging out. I have to say, he really stepped up to the plate, and to me, I think he just stole the show. He just kicked so much ass, and I was just so proud to be up there with him. I was really happy with the whole Asian tour, and the people were always wonderful; just very warm and welcoming, and good spirits all round. It was great.


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SCRAPED


Scraped was debuted at the Kyocera Dome in Osaka, Japan, on December 16, 2009.




Scraped
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Scraped
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That’s another Buckethead song. I was keying off the guitar riff – we’ve been playing that style for years, so when he came in with the riff I knew what to do. Bucket and I have been playing for twenty years now. Before I was even in Primus, Joe Gore, the editor of Guitar Player, turned me on to him. We’ve been playing together since Bill Laswell and Praxis. So to get into that song was so simple – right away I hear his style and know what to play and what to feel.


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CATCHER IN THE RYE


'Catcher In The Rye' was played live for the first time on December 16, 2009, Osaka, Japan.




Catcher In The Rye
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Catcher In The Rye
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DISCUSSING THE LYRICS


After the release of Chinese Democracy, Axl would talk about the meaning behind the lyrics:

For me the song is inspired by what's referred to sometimes as Holden Caulfield syndrome. I feel there's a possibility that how the writing is structured with the thinking of the main character could somehow reprogram for lack of a better word some who may be a bit more vulnerable, with a skewed way of thinking and tried to allow myself to go what may be there or somewhat close during the verses. I'd think for most those lines are enjoyed as just venting, blowing off steam, humor or some type of entertainment where it may be how others seriously live in their minds. The bridge b4 the solo is an artistic interpretation of a institutionalized mind. The outro is a tribute to Lennon and an indictment of the author for writing what i feel is utter garbage and I agree whole heartedly that it should be discontinued as required reading in schools. That's my take, I could be completely wrong, I do realize that the song and title could have the next poor soul reading the book and feeling inspired to make an unfortunate statement. So there's the catch I guess. When I came up with the focus, I got a call from the director of Imagine wanting a bunch of money to make a documentary, had a guy sending me strange packages about Lennon and serial killers etc and the web started calling me Salinger w/no one knowing what I was writing. I figured I was on the right track at least for a song.
chinesedemocracy.com, December 13, 2008

Ok, I've never actually tried to put this into words this way before and this'll probably get me in trouble with someone but here goes... The piano started while watching a documentary or A&E type show on Chapman and wanting to write something for Lennon and his family. W/the book it started as fascination and curiosity with Holden Caufield Syndrome and what was or could possibly be in the book that obviously certain vulnerable people have seemed to become so passionate about and resort to outrageous public attempts or acts of violence. That and the question most have in regard to Lennon's death...why? Can't say I have those answers but I feel our song pays the emotional tribute to John Lennon in the end that I'd wanted to write since the night he was killed and also since first listening to Elton and Bernie's Empty Garden. I read the book. I fell into a deep dark sleep. Went to the studio and sang as a joke what I refer to as the Holden parts off the top of my head and felt at the time at least imo I had stumbled on a way of thinking that had a pattern and a flow but was broken up like a television station going out and coming back slightly off course intermittently and not making sense with it's earlier portion. Where this unease helped to justify or even demand taking action and feeling the power of taking that action against whoever your mind felt was somehow involved or the root of this unease and alienation. Accompanied by a calming surreal almost religious (but totally insane) vibe I think that if some were to experience having limited capabilities, insecurities or are mentally and emotionally challenged in some way could find a false sense of solace and take comfort in like being on some type of drugs or meds but with an added completely false sense of an imagined calling or purpose. It certainly could and very well often would feel better than some individuals real world or having to experience or live with a clearer perspective of their true reality... All of which of course could be imagined and hooked together by events like Lennon's murder, reading the book, wanting to write a song about someone being insane, John Lennon, Chapman, people shooting people and watching Mel Gibson's Conspiracy! And when I got home not in any dramatic way but more like cleaning off the dinner table I threw my book away. Don't know if any of that's really what any of that's about but that's how it hit me and just like an instant cake we got the basis for a song.
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REPLACING BRIAN MAY'S PART


In November 2008, just before the release of Chinese Democracy, it was rumoured that May's contributions to the song 'Cather in the Rye' has been removed, to which May responded:

Well, it is a shame, perhaps ... I did put quite a lot of work in, and was proud of it. But I could understand if Axl [w]ants to have an album which reflects the work of the members of the band as it is right now.
Blabbermouth, November 4, 2008


After the release of the album, Axl would explain the decision to exclude May's contributions and partly explain the reason on fans not showing enough appreciation for it:

There's a few reasons and none of them all that big and definitely not in spite or to slight anyone. 1st off obviously I knew people liked the song but the Brian appreciation really only showed up in force publicly after we had moved on in Guns. In fact Not many seemed to care and most comments were aimed at why Slash in their opinions should be here. Brians solo itself is a personal fave of mine and I really couldn't understand as he's such a rock legend why it wasn't openly appreciated more at the time. In actuality all that feel and emotion referred to now had a lot to do with Sean and I and the parts I chose out of Brian's different runs, versions, practice runs etc to make sure we had those elements in one version. It's entirely constructed from edits based around one specific note Brian hit in a throw away take. And though Brian seems to have warmed a bit to it at least publicly he was unfortunately none to pleased at the time with our handiwork. I remember looking at Brian standing to my left and him staring at the big studio speakers a bit aghast saying "But that's not what I played." Sean Beavan and I were not in any way tring to mess with Brian we just did what we do and then try and do our best to stand up for our decisions.
htgth.com, December 12, 2008


A fan at HTGTH would reach out to May through email for comments on what Axl said:

I have been reluctant to say anything about the sessions, ever since it happened, out of respect to Axl, and, well, its the decent way to behave.  But there is so much talk about it now, and so many questions ... I have been putting together a small piece about it for my 'Soapbox".

The important thing from my point of view is that it happened at all, and was an enjoyable experience.  I was honoured.   I really didn't do it with the expectation that I would get any long-term rewards !!!  Axl is pretty exceptional, and unpredictable ...

I am reminded of something my Mum told me once, many years ago.  She said it's OK to lend money to people, but you must lend it with the full knowledge that it will probably never come back.  This is the only way to live in peace with yourself !!

So its the same with time, or deeds, or anything that you can give.  If you do it expecting thankyou's, or rewards, you're going to be disappointed !

I'm really not disappointed in the least.   I'm very happy that people like yourself have been writing to me saying good things ... that's a real bonus.  I sleep well in my bed !!  And I will always have great love for Axl.
htgth.com, December 16, 2008


This is the "soapbox comment" May wrote and published on his website:

Well, a lot of people have been asking about me and Axl.

It's very simple really ... Axl is making his record, and he can do whatever he wants ! After all these years I'm still a huge fan.

It was such a long time ago, it tends to recede into the mists of time, for me ... I certainly don't remember anything about disapproving of any 'comping' Sean Beavan had done - I remember it, I had actually comped it up with him myself. Of course, soon afterwards, Sean was taken off the project, although I have to say I thought the tracks were overall sounding bloody good at that time! I'm not sure if we know where the version that was 'leaked' to the public came from. I have my own rough mixes, which I took away at the time for the purposes of working on the stuff further if necessary, but nobody but me has ever heard those. I kept them totally private, because that's the professional way to be. I actually played on three tracks.

The scenario was very different from what folk-lore seems to be embroidering it into. So maybe I ought to say something ...

What happened, the way I remember it, was this. I had been on tour with GN'R, and had a very good relationship with them ... they were much kinder to me than they needed to be, as a support artist to them as they toured the USA and Europe. We had some great times. People will recall that GN'R also guested at our Freddie tribute concert, at the good old Wembley Stadium, as it was then. They did an amazing job on Dylan's "Knocking on Heaven's Door", and they donated all the proceeds of their live recording to the newly-founded Mercury Phoenix Trust - that's a nice answer to anyone who accuses GN'R of being anti-gay.

Well, some time later, once I was back home, Axl phoned me up, out of the blue, and told me he felt he was losing his way over guitars on the tracks on the album, and asked me if I would come over for a couple of days to LA and have look. The idea was not that I become part of the band! It was more about me coming in as a friend, giving what I could to the project, as an objective outside opinion, and doing a bit of guitar playing as well. I said I'd be very happy to do that. His people booked me on plane, and I arrived a couple of days later. It was fun. Axl came down to the studio from his house, where he was also working in parallel on other stuff in his home studio, and, with Sean, played about 20 tracks to me ... pretty much almost the whole album as it stood at that time. That's a lot of listening time! But it was all fascinating. My comments were mainly appreciations, and reassurances, and I liked most of the guitar that was already on there, but I remember having strong 'producorial' feelings about making sure Axl's great vocals didn't get swamped in too much guitar ornamentation.

Then I played some guitar ... working with Sean. Over the next couple of days I went in and spent most of day there, trying things out on various tracks. Axl actually stayed away from that time on, getting Sean to take up rough mixes of what we'd been doing each night, and sending back appreciative comments. Then I went home!

Oh .. we also had a nice evening having dinner up at Axl's home, with a few friends and record company guys, during which Axl played everybody a whole bunch of tracks that were NOT already on the album ... which he had been working on separately. It was evidently already a mammoth project.

In my mind, I gave it a small piece of my life, without any thought of getting anything back, except the feeling that I'd contributed a little to the journey of the album project. I didn't ask to be paid, or even credited, and I certainly didn't put any constraints on whether the guys had to use my work or not.

I'm totally relaxed about the outcome, as I always was, and I hope that Axl will now feel liberated, by the final emergence of his magnum opus, to move on, and get back out there where we all want him to be, rockin' around the world ...

It's interesting that, at the time of all this, I was completely sure that for us, as Queen, the days of playing packed stadium gigs were over. I never thought that in 2008, we would be playing, in Buenos Aires, for instance, in the same football stadium (Velez Sarsfield) as we played with Freddie all those years ago, to a reaction every bit as frenetic as in the Old Days. The reviews of Queen and Paul Rodgers in Brazil were ecstatic, to the point where one article said our show out-did the first Rock in Rio. So I'm very grateful that the wheel keeps turning, and even happier still to be in the Great River of Rock.

Cheers

Bri
Brian May website, December 14, 2008


In 2009, Bumblefoot would discuss the fact that May's solo on Catcher in the Rye was replaced with his solo:

Brian May had done a whole lot of tracking for the album that unfortunately wasn’t used. Brian had recorded a solo for the Catcher In The Rye years ago, and I had done some takes later on. And I guess they chose to go with the stuff I put down, which actually I feel a little guilty about: you know Brian May is definitely someone who is of ‘we are not worthy!’ status. Brian, if you read this, you’re welcome to play anything you want on one of my records. In fact, I won’t play any guitar at all and you can play all the guitars – that would be fine with me.
Guitarist, March 2009


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SORRY


Sorry was debuted live on December 13, 2009, at the Olympics Gymnastics Arena in Seoul, South Korea.

Fans would speculate that the lyrics of the song was about Slash, and Axl would comment on this:

With Sorry.. like a lot of the material is drawn from a lot of different situations. The main focus on the boards w/the track seems to be either Slash or "the fans" (and the collective of "the fans" is another thing that doesn't work for me) and is much too restrictive or narrow and limits what I feel I intended. For me it's for anyone talking nonsense at mine and the public's expense and that many of those as well as the public don't know who to believe.

Also where possible I'd like to give people the opportunity to get what they can from the material for a while before clouding that with my inspirations. Of course that's not always avoidable
chinesedemocracy.com, December 13, 2008

And for the idiots,. I don't mean anyone here tonight. No, this song is not about someone I used to know.





Sorry
From the alternative Red Hand album artwork
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Sorry
From the alternative Grenade album artwork
Credit to troccoli




When asked why he chose to sing the line "but I don't want to do it" in a different voice:

Because I like it, feel it absolutely fits the song, is a bit reggae etc and is lots of fun personally.


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OCTOBER 23, 2009
FRONT LINE MANAGEMENT IS OUT


In June 2009, according to a source to New York Daily News, Axl had been firing and hiring Irving Azoff three times in a month [New York Daily News, June 6, 2009]. Allegedly, the conflict centered on Azoff trying to get Axl out of the house and try to attempt to revive the sales of Chinese Democracy [New York Daily News, June 6, 2009].

At some point in 2009, Goldstein sent a letter to Axl where he tried to ingratiate himself with Axl again after having been estranged since 2001, and claimed Azoff was only working towards making Axl reunite with previous band members:

Axl, I'm watching your career with great frustration. I know that the only reason Irving is working with you is to induce you in the future to do THE GREAT RE-UNION TOUR. Give me a fucking break....I KNOW that is never going to happen, and wish people wouldd just fucking leave you alone on this issue. Andy Gould...C'mon..the guys a buffoon. He's a semi-funtioning alcoholic, who doesn't put YOUR needs in first place.


Then later in the year, Axl would announce that he and his management had gone their separate ways:

I did not release any statement or authorize either any statement or anyone to release a statement regarding anything at any airport anywhere.

We had recently began working with newer individuals in management in relation to our current Asian tour in support of our Guns N' Roses album "Chinese Democracy" in addition to Irving Azoff's though as it happens we are once again touring Asia without management of any kind.

Imo this non sense may be some type of manufactured or publicity stunt.

We're looking forward to performing in Osaka and Tokyo Japan doubling our pyro show and with our "new" full stage as local requirement have limited us on its use in our last performances.

Thanks to everyone who's come out to see us. It's been really fun so far and the addition of our new guitarist Dj Ashba joining us along w/ guitarists Ron Bumblefoot Thal and Richard Fortus, gives the night a kick in the pants.

Hope to see the rest of you soon!!

And to any publications running this; please feel free to tack on whatever negative agenda supporting nonsense you generally do (You know who you are!!). After all it's only someone else's livelihood you media police state, no fun, spoil sport, communist bastards.

Peace!!


In the later counter-lawsuit against Azoff, Axl would state that Azoff had resigned on October 23 [Axl vs Azoff Counter-Lawsuit Documents, May 17, 2000]


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JANUARY 13, 2010
THE NORTH AMERICAN TOURS STARTS IN
WINNIPEG, CANADA


The band continued the Chinese Democracy World Tour with their first show of the North American leg on January 13 at the MTS Centre in Winnipeg, MB, Canada.

Before taking the stage, Axl tweeted:

Yo Vancouver!! D'oh!! Bkstage in Winnipeg, Danko's on, 26F HEATWAVE!! Excited 2 get this rolling. In r off time we'll b helping Mounties flush out Al Qaeda. (What's that aboot, Eh? jk) Good 2 see Baz! LET'S DO THIS!!!
Twitter, January 13, 2010




Backstage photo posted by Axl
January 13, 2010



Excerpt of review by Darryl Sterdan writing for Rolling Stone Magazine:

Following the basic template laid out on the band’s Asian dates in December, they kicked open the doors with the title cut from Chinese Democracy, followed by the one-two-three punch of “Welcome to the Jungle,” “It’s So Easy” and “Mr. Brownstone” from 1987’s Appetite for Destruction. From the moment Rose opened his mouth to scream, “You know where you are? You’re in the jungle, baybeeee!” it was clear his corroded air-raid siren of a voice had lost little of its range, rage or power. Likewise, the rest of the band — guitarists Richard Fortus, Ron “Bumblefoot” Thal and DJ Ashba, keyboardists Dizzy Reed and Chris Pitman, drummer Frank Ferrer and bassist Tommy Stinson (formerly of The Replacements) — hit the ground running, tearing through most of Appetite and Democracy, with a few cuts from the 1991 Use Your Illusion albums (including covers of “Live and Let Die” and “Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door”) sprinkled in for good measure.

Although he appeared to be in good spirits, between songs Rose kept fairly quiet, offering little beyond the usual thank-yous and how-is-everybody banter. In fact, for a guy who wields such a commanding musical presence, he spent much of the evening shining the spotlight on his bandmates, bolting from the stage during every instrumental break and introducing nearly every player for a solo segment (best of the bunch: Stinson’s suitably snotty bash ’n’ pop version of the Who’s “My Generation”).




Axl and Dj
Winnipeg, January 13, 2010



Excerpts of review by John Onstronomy writing for MTV Music Blogs:

Thank God for Axl Rose. Say what you want about him – that he worked on “Chinese Democracy” for too long, that you don’t think his band should be called Guns N’ Roses, or that you think he goes onstage too late – but this is rock 'n' roll, and I like Axl even more for doing things HIS way. Whether it’s defending his entourage in an airport scuffle on the way to a tour date in Taiwan or reportedly exchanging a Twitter barb with a former bandmate over reunion rumors and the Haitian earthquake, right or wrong – it’s not my or anyone else's business to decide – Rose is one of the only rock stars that hasn’t lost what made me love them in the first place.

On Wednesday night, Guns N’ Roses performed what Rolling Stone magazine called a “marathon gig” in Winnepeg, Canada in support of their platinum selling 2008 release, “Chinese Democracy.” Although I loved Guns since I first saw them from the front row at Boston’s Paradise rock club in September ‘87, the current band lineup is as cool, talented, and interesting as any I’ve ever seen.

This supergroup has spent so much time rehearsing in Los Angeles, that they can knock out three-plus hours of new and old GN’R classics at a moment’s notice. Lead guitarist, Ron “Bumblefoot” Thal is like no other musician I’ve ever heard. You can literally detune every tuning peg on his Gibson Les Paul headstock, and he’ll instantaneously transpose his fingerings on the fretboard. Bassist Tommy Stinson is someone I admired since my high school band covered the Replacements’ version of KISS’ “Black Diamond,” and between keyboard players Dizzy Reed and Chris Pitman, guitarists Richard Fortus and DJ Ashba, and drummer Frank Ferrer, I’d be hard pressed to assemble a better band. Sure the classic lineup including Axl, Slash, Duff, and Izzy were, as Slash recently described it, “a real force together,” but that was in the past, and the new Guns members are more than qualified to keep the name Guns N’ Roses alive. In an open letter to the fans, Rose quoted Stinson as saying, “We're not lettin' what took so much blood and heart get turned to shit and dust.”


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JANUARY 13, 2010
AXL REACTS TO REUNION RUMOURS


On January 12, 2010, a terrible earthquake struck Haiti causing massive destruction and loss of lives. The next day Slash tweeted:

[...] looking into organizing a big fund raiser concert for Haiti


The same day, Axl also tweeted:

On a side note, pretty low n' selfish usin' the devastation in Haiti 2 start (false) reunion rumors. R hearts n' prayers go out to the Haitian people.


It is not clear what reunion rumours Axl referred to, nor who he considered low and selfish, but Blabbermouth (and other media) would speculate that Axl was referring to Slash [Blabbermouth (via The Rock Radio), January 13, 2010].

In the time after, Axl would emphasize that he had not been referring to Slash with his tweet:

[...] thanks 4 ALL the positive press n' reviews, it's more than greatly appreciated!! W/the exceptions of r scheduling, n' routing nonsense, a few misguided (minor) media hacks twistin' either Haiti comments or a 2001 bs RS story [...]
Twitter, February 6, 2010

Takin' shots at Slash n' reunions over Haiti nonsense: Never happened. Wasn't aware of any comments from the old lineup.
Twitter, February 16, 2010


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JANUARY 16-20, 2010
THE CANADIAN LEG OF THE TOUR CONTINUES


The band then continued to Pengrowth Saddledome in Calgary, AB, Canada, for a show on January 16 and then to Rexall Place in Edmonton, AB, Canada, for a show on January 17.

Edmonton! At the Rexall. None of this "left at the hotel" sheott!! 2 concerned w/gettin' 2 the gig yday 2 tweet. Ready 2 wreak havoc!!
Twitter, January 17, 2010


Excerpt of review by Mike Ross in Edmonton Sun:

Sure, we missed Slash during Sunday night’s show at Rexall Place, but there were three — count ’em — excellent guitarists to pick up the slack, Richard Fortus, Ron “Bumblefoot” Thal and DJ Ashba (who sported a silly tophat and started the show with a cigarette sprouting from his maw, obviously a nod to Mr. Slash).

No one in a crowd of 9,800 seemed to mind the new incarnation of the famous band that bridged the gap between hair metal and grunge rock.

When our favourite bad boy of rock commenced to howl Welcome to the Jungle early on, no one complained that this was just some overblown G’NR tribute band with an older and hairier frontman.

No one would’ve been able to hear any grumbling anyway. The cheers were deafening. So was the band. So were the explosions.

The 47-year-old Axl sang like a champ. His musicians were amazing. So was the stage production. It’s early, but this might have been the best rock show of 2010.


The band then continued to Credit Union Centre in Saskatoon, SK, Canada (January 19) and to the Brandt Centre, Regina, SK, Canada (January 20).

Excerpt of review by Christopher Tessmer in Regina Leader-Post:

Nobody in the crowd should have left the Brandt Centre feeling ripped off by the show, as the band put on an intense performance, though the notoriously late Rose had the group hit the stage 45 minutes later than scheduled.

Coming out to flashes of pyrotechnics and fire blasts, the eight-piece group launched into the title track of the 2008 release Chinese Democracy. Rose looked every bit the rock star, adorned in a sleeveless denim shirt, jeans, sunglasses, red bandana and black top hat.

[...]

While it wasn't the Guns N' Roses that people grew up knowing and loving, the current lineup was very entertaining and solid musically. With three guitarists, bass player, keyboardist, piano player, and drummer to accompany Rose, there was little chance the band's sound would be thin in the concrete confines of the arena.

If there were any concerns that the show would merely be a spectacle with little redeeming quality musically, they were quickly put to rest when the group played the opening chords of the second song, "Welcome to the Jungle." The crowd was whipped into a frenzy as the fire blasts lit up the stage, and fans dressed in leather, denim, and club clothes started to sing along.


And excerpt of review by Gary King in Rockstar Weekly:

Firstly, allow me to make a confession! I am not an archetypal Guns N Roses fan. I own but one of their recordings and in fact, when I last saw GNR on March 27, 1993 (use your Illusion tour) in the beautiful “Bridge City” commonly referred to as Saskatoon, it was solely due to their superb choice of support acts – “The Brian May Band’. Yes Brian May guitar player extraordinaire from the Legendary group Queen. Not to be confused with the Brian May from Mad Max fame.

At any rate, 16 years 9 months and 24 days have passed (but who’s counting) and my opportunity to see the legendary Axl “you love him, you hate him, you can’t have a good old fashioned rock n’ roll riot without him)”Rose is here. This time, I’m posed to see the much lauded ‘Chinese Democracy Tour’ in Regina, AKA ‘The Queen City’, AKA ‘The City That Rhymes with Fun’– more on that later, in the comfy confines of the acoustically challenged Brandt Centre. My curiosity has the better of me. Will he be late? How Late? One hour? 2 Hours? Will he storm out? Will he even show up? Is he still capable of delivering the goods? The questions mount.

IMHO, the words “rock star”, “epic”, and “legend” are more common these days than candy floss at the local summer fair. Well, allow me to remove all doubt that this incarnation of the multi-million selling (100 million at last count) American rockers are not only alive and well – thank you very much, but in fact, they make a compelling argument to be regarded in the aforementioned rock star, epic, legend status.

From the moment Axl and Company took the stage at precisely 10:16 pm, opening with ’Chinese Democracy’, Axl clad in a button down, white collar, long sleeve stripped shirt, (sans the sleeves) and adorned with enough silver jewelry to make any Mexican beach vendor proud (I swear I saw him in Puerto Vallarta last year – true story) and with trademark red bandanna tucked under a black hat, he had the crowd on their feet, which is precisely where the majority of the 5,500 fans stayed for 2 ½ hours until the show closed with ‘Paradise City’.

As Axl sashayed and prowled effortlessly about the stage, it became apparent very quickly that Father Time has been rather kind to Axl. His soon to be 48 years belies him. He looks and moves about with a presence and energy that reminds us that you don’t have to be a middle age rocker who well…looks middle age.

[...]

As GNR blinded and deafened the crowd with a dizzying display of lights, explosions and pyro, while playing such mega hits as ‘Welcome to the jungle’, ‘Live and Let Die’ (an argument could be made here that the explosions were excessive) and closer to the end of the show ‘Sweet Child O’Mine’, but most certainly during ‘November Rain’ that I conjured up the hereto unforeseen and unbearable notion that perhaps the 80’s were not so bad after all. In fact, GNR was quickly proving to me that 80’s arena rock is alive and well.

[...]

Rock Star? Absolutely! Epic? No Question! Legend? The jury is out on that one, but on this rather chilly night in “The City That Rhymes with Fun” no one, (myself included) would argue that Guns and Fucking Roses showed up, on time, and delivered the goods to a satisfied audience that were left wanting more. In my case, if I have to wait another 16 years 9 months and 24 days to see them again it’s quite conceivable that “Legend” will be in Axl’s back pocket.


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SLASH APPAREL BEING BANNED AT GUNS N' ROSES SHOWS?


On January 14, the day after the show in Winnipeg, a rumour started on the fansite mygnrforum.com that some concert goers had been asked to leave Slash top hats outside and wear Slash t-shirts inside out [mygnrforum.com, January 14, 2010]. The claim would be supported by the forum moderator "madison" who stated she had talked to a "security manager" at the Winnipeg venue who stated that he was "specifically instructed not to allow people into the show if they wore Slash shirts or were dressed in Slash gear with tophats" and that it was "by Axl's request" [mygnrforum.com, January 15, 2010]. This resulted in heated discussions with many fans stating they had never been met with the same orders when attending shows in 2006 and 2010. The discussions resulted in Fernando posting at the fansite Here Today Gone To Hell:

We did not advise any security to ban any sort of apparel.... If they did, they did it on their own accord, or under someone else's order — from within their management.

Can we squash it now?  Or should we discuss it for like 10days, then discuss about why we discussed it for 10 days, for another 2weeks... then, reignite the conversation on how Axl himself was at the venue doors, telling everyone that Slash linkings and/or apparel is not allowed.
htgth.com, January 15, 2010


The story would eventually be picked up by TMZ, but they changed the show to he one in Regina on January 20 [TMZ, January 24, 2010; Blabbermouth, January 24, 2010]. According to TMZ, a member of the concert security team claimed they had been instructed to stop Slash gear by "a producer of the band" [TMZ, January 24, 2010; Blabbermouth, January 24, 2010]. Pollstar made an effort to confirm the story but was not able to find any fans who would corroborate the story [Pollstar, January 25, 2010].

Eventually, Slash responded to the ongoing discussions on mygnrforum with a scathing attack on "madison":

What the fuck do you know? That's right! You don't know jack fucking shit you fucking ignorant, know it all, fucking deluded, misguided, self important, self righteous, pious, small minded, clueless, loud mouthed, arrogant ****. No one needs your opinions n' having to deal with your constant abuse of privileges or the miniscule amount of power you've had here you wield like an angry, *******, wannabe, high school parking lot rent-a-cop always mouthing off like you're some kind of authority which you're far from. I have to say it saddens me you continue to babble your horseshit to unsuspecting fans n' any names n' numbers you have are of people like you who try n' hurt others to promote themselves at their expense. That's the only real thing you got bitch. [...] I've never asked for anyone's shirt bein' thrown out of anywhere let alone say I did [...] I don't work for you or have to do a goddamn thing you think ever. Your opinions of anything whatsoever don't count or mean jack shit to me or anyone in this camp. You're garbage, plain and simple. You're not a fan or a voice of reason... you're a sick n' diseased mind spilling it's bile over the internet. Well now you can drink up the rewards of the crap that's been spillin' out of your pie hole forever here n' enjoy the fermented, feted n' vulgar response you've been cultivating n' aching for... for so long . Find another board this one doesn't need you. Oh n' feel free to jump in all you wanna be web warriors, ho defenders n' bitch boi's, you ain't needed either.
mygnrforum.com, February 10, 2010


On February 16, Axl would again comment on the rumour in a tweet and suggest it all started with a Rolling Stone article from 2001:

Canadian tour n' Slash banned clothing nonsense: which I addressed live as soon as it happened but hey fake allegations from unreliable sources bein' negative n' all especially w/us n' these issues got more weight to n' 4 aholes. Fabricated from a 2001 bs RS piece from Rock N' Rio. Bottom line Never happened, end of story. Fuck TMZ, ContactMusic, Spinner (I got ur attitude.)


The following day, Axl would tweet a correction:

Correction: In rereading I realized I addressed the clothing nonsense as soon as I was made aware not when it 1st happened, my bad. I tend to avoid media n' the net when touring so as not to have whatever negative nonsense or those tryin' 2 stir trouble interfere w/either the show or time needed elsewhere in prep as well as other GNR business. Too much goin' on to b throwin' sand in some idiot's sandbox. Also my comments aren't based on these relatively minor issues they go a fair way back w/each of those mentioned n' unfortunately several others. We aren't lookin' 4 free rides or handouts, give those to those u been but if ya wanna play nice we can too in fact we'd love to. Can't say we didn't make the effort. Peace!!


The Rolling Stone article Axl is referring to was a review by Mark Benelli of the band's 2001 performance at Rock In Rio that mentioned Axl throwing out a concert-goer because he didn't like his t-shirt:

Temperamentally, Rose did not disappoint. After the first song, he had security remove a kid in the front holding up a FUCK GUNS N’ ROSES T-shirt. (Hey, the First Amendment only applies on U.S. soil.)


Later in February and March, Slash would be asked about the rumour:

Yeah, I never really… I never entertained that as necessarily being truthful. A lot of stuff happens and people love to talk so I just took it as rumor and left it at that.

I give him the benefit of the doubt. I hate to think someone would be that petty, so it might be more of a rumour. There is a little bit of infighting between fans now, too. There’s like Guns fans who support the Axl thing and then there’s Guns fans who support the Slash thing. And God knows where it originated.


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JANUARY 24, 2010
COPPS COLISEUM IN HAMILTON;
DJ GETS THROWN OUT OF HOTEL


The band continued to Copps Coliseum in Hamilton, ON, Canada for a show on January 24.

"Hamilton-"Aboot" 2 go on, should b fun!! Good 2 b back after some fuckd up time off. Back 2 business!!"
Twitter, January 24, 2010




Backstage photo posted by Axl
January 24, 2010



Before the show, Dj got kicked out of the hotel because of smoking [The Metal Den, January 25, 2010]. Dj would comment on the episode:

Well, the manager which was an older lady, beat on my door, she was a bitch from get go, she said they had already fined me 500.00 with out a warning might I add, and told me if I smoke again she will triple the fine and would have to ask me to leave. So as she was standing in my door bitching with her Tina Turner like hair do, I light up a cigarette… Leer más, smiled and said “I’ll start packing” and slammed the door in her face. Keep in mind I always book in a smoking room, so I had no idea. You think she could of been nicer about the situation considering our band had about 70 rooms there. I was happy to hear Axl checked out early too due to the same lady. Anyways we’re in a much nicer hotel now anyways. Hahaha!!!!


After the show, Axl tweeted:

Ontari-fuckin'-O!! Ready to bash it out!! I sucked on TWAT last night...wait...is that a bad thing?!! Floyd was cool. Met an army of Bach-Bierks. Baz's mom said he called her from my closet once bk in the day. Hmm...had 2 b either cops or when the girl was tied 2 the chair!!
Twitter, January 25, 2010


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JANUARY 25-FEBRUARY 4, 2010
THE CANADIAN LEG OF THE TOUR FINISHES


The band continued to John Labatt Centre in London, ON, Canada for a show on January 25.



Axl and Dj
London, January 25, 2010



Excerpt of review by James Reaney in London Free Press:

Every seven years or so, the frontman for Guns N’ Roses takes his sweet time about getting to the stage at the John Labatt Centre.

When he finally gets there, he works his Axl off.

At 2010’s first big rock concert at the downtown London arena, Axl Rose and his Guns N’ Roses bandmates started with about an hour of Monday left and kept rocking for 80 minutes into Tuesday.

[...]

In terms of a review, a kaleidoscopic approach probably works best for a show like this one.

Sure, Guns N’ Roses were late to the stage and sure there was some filler as Monday blended into early Tuesday.

But any Rose that can keep running and shouting for that long and still remembers he’s in London, Ontario when it’s time to say good night is always welcome back for more.

[...]

Three guitarists, three spotlights: Richard Fortus put some metal to James Bond-styled themes and gets extra points for windmilling a la Pete Townshend and punching away at the chords all night. Ron “Bumblefoot” Thai played The Pink Panther Theme in his spot, cute but only that. He had some of the sweetest unplugged sounds and Bumblefoot also amazed on a fretless guitar. The weak link was the newbie, DJ Ashba. His instrumental spot was just ho-hum and he applause begged no end. Good tattoos, though.


Great show tonight in London. Don't know what came over me the end of the show - grabbed my junk & yelled THIS IS MY COCK!! into the mic.
Twitter, January 26, 2010

Karma: screaming bad stuff into a mic, waking up the next morning sick with your throat feeling like you ate sandpaper soaked in acid...
Twitter, January 27, 2010


Then the band did a show at the Centre Ball in Montreal, QC, Canada on January 27. This would be Guns N' Roses' first return to Montreal since the disastrous concert in August 1992.

Excerpt of review by Clay Marshall in Classic Rock:

As for the headliner, it’s instantly clear that GN’R is now little different than any number of classic hard rock acts with only one remaining original member. Having surrounded himself in recent years with a revolving door of competent yet ultimately faceless replacements, Rose has, perhaps unwittingly, turned the spotlight even more on himself, no matter how many solos he lets his band members enjoy tonight. (His frequent wardrobe changes don’t help.)

Still, Rose – sporting a Fu Manchu, and flanked by video screens and LED back drops – admirably avoids the easy path of nostalgia taken regularly by so many of his peers, as tonight’s workmanlike, nearly three-hour set is split almost evenly between older and recent material. One only wishes he’d take to heart the most basic tenet of democracy: give the people what they want. All too often, the Chinese Democracy material falls flat next to classics such as Welcome To The Jungle and You Could Be Mine, but the magnetic presence of the slithering, itinerant front man holds your interest nonetheless.

His only overt references to the riot come during Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door – “You fuckers just like to tear shit up,” he playfully prods the crowd before thanking them genuinely for their support – and after the show-closing Paradise City, when he gives a tantalisingly cryptic tease before exiting: “You deserve the truth, but tonight’s not the time.” More proof that the King Of The Jungle sets his own hours.


The next show took place at the Air Canada Centre in Toronto, ON, Canada on January 28. This show started more than two hours after the scheduled start [Toronto Sun, January 29, 2010].



Axl and Richard
Toronto, January 28, 2010
Credit Steve Russell


Dj and Axl
Toronto, January 28, 2010
Credit Steve Russell



Sorry about the time delay. We got a little carried away .... last night. But anyway, we're here.


The press would talk about the band being late and Axl would comment on it in a tweet in February:

Goin' on "hours" late in Toronto nonsense: Based on set change etc. went on 1 hour 8mins late w/circumstances beyond r control n' last minute physical injuries from earlier performances (which took that hour to find ways to deal with) n' could have cancelled the performance not "hrs". Apologies were made. If u have a problem w/any of that or especially if u weren't there fuck off.


After the show, Bumblefoot would complain about suffering from the flu:

Doped up on flu meds.  Every step on stage was like squatting 400 pounds on a tightrope.  Peeled off the backstage floor & sent to hotel...
Twitter, January 29, 2010


The band continued the tour with a show at the Scotiabank Place in Ottawa, ON, Canada on January 31.

After this show, Axl would give an update on the tour's progress:

8:51am Mission Quebec City: Slept a couple hrs. Stuck in Montreal traffic. Everyone's asleep. Bubbles is on board. Show in Ottawa felt good, felt really animated, dug Scraped n' TIL. Bringin' little things learned along the way into the overall or the "whole"! Montreal was a monster gig, felt we tore the roof off!! Had guests from all over Canada, LA, San Diego, NY, Las Vegas, Florida, London, Turkey, The Philippines etc. Toronto had fans from around the globe as well! Bein' on the tail end of a 2 on 1 off n' where rt after w/the size of r show was tough on not just us but the crew w/load in' n' out etc. not taken into consideration by others n' all the bts nonsense across the board 4 months w/all sides. Still w/everyone feelin' like bein' on the wrong end of a beatdown the show went good. (Coulda been a lot worse). The people everywhere have been so great 2 all of us! A heartfelt thanks to everyone who helped pull through all of that n' make 'em memorable! Parties were off da chain!! N' again peeps were so great!! Gots ta rage a bit where n' when ya can!!
Twitter, February 1, 2010


After this followed shows at the Colisée Pepsi in Quebec City, QC, Canada (February 1) and at the Moncton Coliseum in Moncton, NB, Canada (February 3).

Moncton Rocked! What a great crowd!! Hali, here we come!!
Twitter, February 4, 2010


The last show of the Canadian leg of the tour took place at the Halifax Metro Centre in Halifax, NS, Canada on February 4.

Bumblefoot would mention meeting fans in Halifax:

One good memory was giving a guitar lesson as part of a radio contest in Halifax. The winners were this really nice family, I took them on a tour of the stage before the show, and enjoyed hearing about where they live in Newfoundland, real good people.


After the show Axl would sum up the Canadian leg:

WOW!! The Canadian Run's over already?!! That was insane!! And I mean that in the absolute BEST way possible!! We'll take a few days 2 regroup n' jump in2 the next thing. Thanks 2 everyone 4 coming out, hope u had fun!! We had a blast!! Can't wait 2 see u again!! Special thanks 2 all the fans, r production, video, security, transpo, catering, merchandise, wardrobe, personal n' biz crews, Sebastian n' the Sebastian Bach Band, Maria Bach, Danko Jones, all of r's n' their roadies, techs, the Shot Girls, r personal friends, family n' guests who came out 2 support us, Lucky Beer (Aussie), Bubbles n' all the TPB's (unbelievable ending!!), thanks 4 ALL the positive press n' reviews, it's more than greatly appreciated!! W/the exceptions of r scheduling, n' routing nonsense, a few misguided (minor) media hacks twistin' either Haiti comments or a 2001 bs RS story, all the bumps n' bruises n' landin' on my ass!! Ha! ... All n' all a good run. Would've liked to hit Toronto a bit harder (n' earlier!). Thanks Canada!! A BIG thanks to the band!! Thanks 2 all the well wishers n' 4 all the bday wishes. Ur all 2 kind!! Oh n' the band 4 buyin' me 10 acres on the Moon!! I miss you Moje!! Love Axl
Twitter, February 6, 2010


And Bumblefoot would summarize the ups and downs of the touring in 2010 so far:

We've been outdoing ourselves, playing the band's longest show in its history (3 hours 37 minutes in Tokyo Dec 2009), playing places in Asia for the first time, spontaneously jamming on AC/DC and Floyd covers, been a real good time. Moments I try not to think about, hmmm... spending the first night of the Asian tour face down on a bathroom floor for 16 hours vomiting, haha, and being doped up on flu medication and feeling too sick to move, half way through the Canadian tour. But even that doesn't seem that bad when I think back on it, that stuff happens all the time on the road. Ya don't sleep, ya sweat on stage, ya touch a hundred hands, ya freeze getting to the bus, someone else on the bus is sick, it's gonna happen, you're next, haha. The best times for me are the things that surround the show, the 'normal' times of just hanging out with good people.


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2009-
WORK ON NEW MUSIC?


In early 2010, Bumblefoot was asked if he had contributed on a songwriting level yet:

Not yet. I have a whole bunch of ideas - we all do. But before thinking about the next album, I just wanna get the fuck out there and just focus on this one, the touring, and whatever kind of promotion there might be.


When writing the songs for Abnormal, he had considered offering the song 'Simple Days' to Guns N' Roses and apparently never did it:

There's one song called "Simple Days" that I had written while on tour with GnR. I was tempted to give the song to GnR, I think the song would have fit Axl's voice well.

It was the only song I wrote on tour. I didn't write it specifically for the band, but afterwards I was thinking about bringing it to them. I thought melodically there was something there that might have been cool to try out.


He would also mention how he would love to make music with the band:

I would love to get this band into the studio, and just bust out shitloads of music, and just keep putting it out. It's all about being prolific; if you're a music maker, you got to go out and make music, and that's my love anyway. I love the studio more than anything, and I would love to get in the studio, and really write together from scratch - not add my own parts to pre-existing songs, but just play them from the beginning. There was one time in the studio where I was talking to Frank, and I said "Right, time me. Two minutes. Let's see how many songs I can come up with in two minutes for the next album", which was six really cool riffs and things, and ideas and so on. We could definitely do it. I guess it's just a question of: does it feel right? Are all the planets aligned? You know what I mean? It's whether it feels like the right thing to do. We'll see, but I would love it. I think it would be a blast, and I think that we can easily bust out some really good music that people would enjoy. I would love to do it.

Ya know what I’d love to do? Write a song every time we do a leg of a tour, record it, make it available to people, play it at the shows, and do that every time. Ya never know which one will really have a big impact on people.


And what type of songs he would write:

A direction I'd like to go in? I don't know... just loud, nasty rock 'n' roll with good melodic stuff, and just ... I don't know. I just wanna write good shit (laughs), whatever it is. If I had to compare it to songs on 'Chinese Democracy', I guess songs like "Scraped" - ones that just have good lines, energy, that get you amped up.


In an interview from June 2010, Dj was quoted as saying they were working on new music:

[The new album] may come out in 2011. We've been busy touring for the past year or so, but we're also writing new songs. As far as I can tell, it's going to be a great album.
Bergensavisen, June 2010; translated from Norwegian


When confronted with this quote, Bumblefoot responded and suggested Dj had been misquoted:

People ask us all the time about a next album and we all speak the same truth, that we would *like* to work on another album, and hopefully will. I think some quotes in that Bergen Norway article got lost in translation, from what the band said to what was printed, to how it was translated again to other languages. Right now the focus is touring, bringing the live show to the world. After that, we'll see what's best to do next...
Whiplash (Brazil), June 29, 2010; translated from Portuguese


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FEBRUARY 11, 2010
THE BAND PLAYS A SECRET SHOW AT THE JOHN VARVATOS STORE IN NYC


On February 11, 2010, the band played a secret show at John Varvatos' store on New York City, which were at the location of the legendary CGBG's club where Guns N' Roses had previously played. The show took place during NYC's Fashion Week and Axl had earlier talked about his interest for fashion:

Versace is a huge Guns N’ Roses-head. […] He loves Guns N’ Roses. His fashion shows, the majority of music is Guns N’ Roses. He’s just really, really into Guns N’ Roses. And I went to an Elton John show there with him, and we got along great. He wants me to do a fashion show (laughs). […] I think [I am going to do it], I don’t know. […] We’ll see what happens. He wants to make me clothes to wear, so it could be fun.
MTV, July 12, 1992


The band would play a full set of 17 songs, starting at 1am and played for 2 hours [New York Post, February 12, 2010].

John Varvatos, the store owner, would comment:

We thought they were only going to play five or six songs.

Guns N' Roses came to the Bowery store to headline New York Fashion Week and they were meant to perform four songs for me. In the end, they played for two and a half hours solid. It was a complete surprise and an amazing show that was talked about for weeks. One of the guys from ZZ Top said it was one of his five greatest moments in music.


After the show, Axl would be elated:

Fuck!! The NY shows were insane!! Love the free form laid back vibe n' both were completely different from r view. The fans were AMAZING!! John (Varvatos) was really great! And to keep CBGB's rockin'?! Badass!!


Review by Amos Barshad in New York Magazine/Vulture:

Whoa! Guns N’ Roses played a tiny, secret New York show last night and you weren’t there! Don’t feel too bad, though, cause neither were we, or most normal people, actually — it was a Fashion Week party at the John Varvatos store (the former CBGB) with a crowd full of glamorous, famous people like Kevin Bacon and Sebastian Bach, and the line to get in went for hours (if you are a glamorous, famous Vulture reader and actually were there last night, please do tell in the comments). But it wasn’t no skimpy “guest appearance” where a band does three songs and then gets drunk on free Champagne the rest of the night: GNR ran through an awesome seventeen-song set with only three Chinese Democracy tracks (“Catcher in the Rye,” “Street of Dreams,” and “This I Love” — or, as they’re known around Vulture HQ, the two good ones and one shitty one).



Photos by Nate "Igor" Smith



Photo by Nate "Igor" Smith
Thank you @drivenbyboredom



Axl's sweating would be mocked by TMZ resulting in Axl tweeting:

I sweat nonsense: On ur mama! Really? That's what u write about? No shit! I work hard, it's good for ya n' I smell better than u!!




Part of setlist, trampled by Axl
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FEBRUARY 14, 2010
THE BAND PLAYS A SECRET SHOW AT
THE ROSE BAR IN NYC


A secret show at the Rose Bar in New York had been rumoured days before it took place [The New York Post/Blabbermouth, February 10, 2010] and Axl has posted about surprise gigs to happen [mygnrforum.com, January 15, 2010].

Nur Khan, "a Rose Bar bigwig", would comment on Axl partying in New York:

He works hard on the road, so who cares if he wants to blow off some steam when he’s off duty? What’s the fuss? He’s havin’ a good time. God bless him.


After the two shows in New York, Axl was elated:

Fuck!! The NY shows were insane!! Love the free form laid back vibe n' both were completely different from r view. The fans were AMAZING!! John (Varvatos) was really great! And to keep CBGB's rockin'?! Badass!! Goin' into Rose Bar was rough on some. Lotta best left memories from the old hotel. The gig helped w/some o' those. Felt really good on stage. (We actually "LIKE" playing together n' I absolutely agree some things should b a lot less complicated than others made them in the past that's why we're together n' other's by their own accord ain't here.) We all had a great time, it was a madhouse!! Thanks to everyone who came out n' those who helped put 'em 2gether. Good to have a short break n' gear up 4 South America. I LOVE NY!!


It is not clear what bad memories Axl is referring to in the quote above.

Review by Lane Brown in New York Magazine/Vulture:

Did we just see what we think we saw? Last night our sisters at the Cut sneaked us into something called DeLeon Tequila’s Special Presentation of Nur Khan’s Famous Rose Bar Sessions, a top-secret Fashion Week—pegged concert at Gramercy Park Hotel’s Rose Bar by a group of musicians purporting to be Guns N’ Roses, at which a person bearing a similar description to this man sang several songs from Appetite for Destruction, the Lies EP, and Chinese Democracy (but only one from the Use Your Illusions and none, obviously, from The Spaghetti Incident?). Was it really Axl Rose? He wore a hat and sunglasses for most of the encore-less set, and his singing was barely audible, but his dancing, demeanor, and tardiness (the band took the stage at around 1:30 a.m.) made us pretty sure it was.

From where we were listening we could barely tell the vocals from the guitars, which certainly didn’t deter Fabrizio from the Strokes and Waris Ahluwalia from shoving past us to be nearer the unicorn on stage. In the rare moments when we could hear it, Axl’s voice did sound pretty terrific — but how could the guy who spent 15 years fussing over the overdubs on Democracy have been okay with such a poor mix? The speakers must have been working better in the back, where a booth-dwelling Mickey Rourke seemed to be enjoying himself.


Excerpt of review by William Goodwin in Spin:

“Happy Valentines Day,” Axl Rose said with a smirk Sunday night, addressing the 150 very beautiful, very lucky people who landed on the guest list for a private Guns N’ Roses concert at the Gramercy Park Hotel’s Rose Bar in New York City. Winking and referencing his band, he added: “We’re the morning-after pill!!!”

Charming. But celebs like Mickey Rourke, Adrian Grenier, Ryan Phillippe, Albert Hammond Jr. and Fab Moretti of the Strokes, Emily Haines of Metric, and Sebastian Bach didn’t come for holiday chivalry. They came for badass rock’n’roll — and they got it. Lots of it.

The late-night concert — an installment of Nur Khan’s Rose Bar Sessions, sponsored by Deleon Tequila, One Music, and SPIN — was a little piece of paradise city: Rose and his six-piece band unleashed a 90-minute, 16-song set spanning all their hits.

GNR performed in front of a fireplace covered in roses, with a black-and-red painting of a skull hanging above. The lights were dim, gorgeous women outnumbered the men 2 to 1, the booze was free, and the light fixture overhead, the singer noted, looked like the spiky thorns of a rosebush. It could have been a scene from a GNR music video.


Afterwards, Axl would respond to claims the band had gone on late:

Goin' on late at Rose Bar nonsense: Nope, Nopity, Nope!! 1:30am on time! U got played!! We were asked to do a show for fans n' friends etc. We were told when to arrive n' when to play between 1 an 2am which we did exactly. We didn't perform for the press or their deadlines other than that they were there. We do our best provided we r treated in the same manner to be polite n' cordial. The past can kiss ur ass, not gonna happen here. Under other circumstances n' advance arrangements things may have been or be different, w/these shows they weren't.



"NO ONE IS GETTING NEAR MY MAN AXL ROSE WITH A KNIFE"


Apparently, Sebastian Bach saved the day when he tossed out a man who drew a knife:

Chaos was narrowly averted at an intimate Guns N' Roses concert when a man with a knife was tackled by ex-Skid Row frontman Sebastian Bach.

The mystery man casually pulled out what appeared to be a switchblade knife as he walked into the packed and uber-exclusive "Nur Khan's Rose Bar Sessions" at the Gramercy Park Hotel on Sunday.

But Bach, who was standing near the door, immediately got the stranger thrown out of the bash, which was attended by a host of stars including Mickey Rourke.

A witness reports, "The man walked in while Guns N' Roses was onstage and pulled out a knife and flicked the blade out. Sebastian, who was standing on a banquette said: 'Nobody is getting anywhere near my man Axl Rose with a knife,' and went after him. Security then immediately threw him out. The man appeared to be drunk. It was dealt with so quickly that none of the other guests or the band were aware of it."

The private Valentine's Day concert was the hottest ticket in town, with a handpicked crowd including the Strokes' Fabrizio Moretti and Albert Hammond Jr., Ryan Phillippe, Zoe Kravitz, Josh Lucas, Yigal Azrouel and Sophia Bush, who all packed into the Rose Bar for the DeLeon Tequila-sponsored first of Khan's series of intimate concerts.

Guns N' Roses played for two hours for 150 guests, finishing up at 3 a.m. before moving the party upstairs with a group of model and rocker friends until 6 a.m.

When earlier asked by The Post's Brian Niemietz if long metal hair will come back in fashion, Bach said, "If it does, people better start now because it takes seven [bleep]ing years to get it this length." Flaunting his golden locks, Bach added, "And this isn't some Jessica [bleep]ing Simpson hair extensions -- this is the real deal." A rep for the Rose Bar declined to comment.



ACCUSATIONS OF FORGETTING THE REAL FANS


On fan sites there would be some complains about the band doing secret shows for the fashion people and not for the hardcore fans, and Axl would comment on this in a tweet:

Not doin' surprise shows for the hardcore fans nonsense: Sorry some feel that way. Saw a lot at both gigs singin' every word in every song. We made efforts to get several if not all fans who contacted us n' were in town into these gigs. We also didn't know most of the guests as we don't live here n' for that matter what makes some internet fan more hardcore than whoever else anyway, oh that's rt...nothing!! Some just like 2 bitch 2 bitch. So if ur complainin' n' u drink beer, today I recommend a Lucky or perhaps a Red Stripe...if ur still peeved...again, fuck off.


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FEBRUARY 2010
DOC MCGEE BECOMES THE BAND'S NEW MANAGER


Since parting ways with Irving Azoff and Front Line Management back in late 2009 [see previous chapter], Guns N' Roes had been without a management, but in February 2010 Axl announced Doc McGee had taken over the managerial reins:

On another note Guns is now managed by Doc McGhee n' we're off to a fun start. Big welcomes! It's nice to have the support!!


This move with be disputed by Paul Stanley of KISS, a band that was managed by McGee:

That's been very funny. A few weeks ago I said to Doc: 'It would've been nice if you'd told us.' Doc replied: 'I had nothing to to do with it.'"

[...]

Axl has decided, from what I understand, that Doc is his manager. That's a one-way agreement. because Doc is not managing Guns N' Roses. One day he certainly might but he's not right now. And he definitely is still our manager.


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