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2010.02.16/17 - Twitter - Letter from Axl

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Post by Blackstar Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:38 pm

On Tuesday 16th February 2010, @axlrose said:

Fuck!! The NY shows were insane!! Love the free form laid back vibe n' both were completely different from r view. The fans were AMAZING!! John (Varvatos) was really great! And to keep CBGB's rockin'?! Badass!! Goin' into Rose Bar was rough on some. Lotta best left memories from the old hotel. The gig helped w/some o' those. Felt really good on stage. (We actually "LIKE" playing together n' I absolutely agree some things should b a lot less complicated than others made them in the past that's why we're together n' other's by their own accord ain't here.) We all had a great time, it was a madhouse!! Thanks to everyone who came out n' those who helped put 'em 2gether. Good to have a short break n' gear up 4 South America. I LOVE NY!!

On another note Guns is now managed by Doc McGhee n' we're off to a fun start. Big welcomes! It's nice to have the support!!

Elsewhere:

Canadian tour n' Slash banned clothing nonsense: which I addressed live as soon as it happened but hey fake allegations from unreliable sources bein' negative n' all especially w/us n' these issues got more weight to n' 4 aholes. Fabricated from a 2001 bs RS piece from Rock N' Rio. Bottom line Never happened, end of story. Fuck TMZ, ContactMusic, Spinner (I got ur attitude.)

Goin' on late at Rose Bar nonsense: Nope, Nopity, Nope!! 1:30am on time! U got played!! We were asked to do a show for fans n' friends etc. We were told when to arrive n' when to play between 1 an 2am which we did exactly. We didn't perform for the press or their deadlines other than that they were there. We do our best provided we r treated in the same manner to be polite n' cordial. The past can kiss ur ass, not gonna happen here. Under other circumstances n' advance arrangements things may have been or be different, w/these shows they weren't.

Goin' on "hours" late in Toronto nonsense: Based on set change etc. went on 1 hour 8mins late w/circumstances beyond r control n' last minute physical injuries from earlier performances (which took that hour to find ways to deal with) n' could have cancelled the performance not "hrs". Apologies were made. If u have a problem w/any of that or especially if u weren't there fuck off.

Not doin' surprise shows for the hardcore fans nonsense: Sorry some feel that way. Saw a lot at both gigs singin' every word in every song. We made efforts to get several if not all fans who contacted us n' were in town into these gigs. We also didn't know most of the guests as we don't live here n' for that matter what makes some internet fan more hardcore than whoever else anyway, oh that's rt...nothing!! Some just like 2 bitch 2 bitch. So if ur complainin' n' u drink beer, today I recommend a Lucky or perhaps a Red Stripe...if ur still peeved...again, fuck off.

I sweat nonsense: On ur mama! Really? That's what u write about? No shit! I work hard, it's good for ya n' I smell better than u!!

Takin' shots at Slash n' reunions over Haiti nonsense: Never happened. Wasn't aware of any comments from the old lineup.

So in closing...Fuck the LA Times, TMZ, Contact Music n' Spinner. I don't need "forgiven" for alleged n' fabricated nonsense. I've no respect for mean spirited aholes gettin' paid talkin' shit at other's expense or irresponsible biased partisan politics wanna be journalism by dated hacks. Go on! Back ur boy! But when he says he never killed no one that ain't exactly true. Yeah, that's right, stone cold. So if we happen to play your neighborhood or for that matter anywhere at anytime regardless of the circumstances, presales, public sales, give aways, even free shows consider yourself uninvited. It's a free country but you're formally n' publicly not welcome.

Bottom line is we ain't makin' efforts to rain on ur parade why piss on or take cheap shots at r's. Oh that's rt...how u make ur livin's all that counts not others, whatever. U ain't above anyone regardless of who or what corporation u work for n' unfortunately most of u'll get to learn that the hard way.

Everyone else...

Thanks for ALL the positive comments, press n' tearin' it up w/us!! It was absolutely fucking AMAZING!! Can't wait to see u out there n' we absolutely appreciate your support!!

Thanks again 2 everyone involved n' everyone that was rockin' out 4 makin' everything SO fucking great!!

What an experience!!

Peace!!

Axl-
https://web.archive.org/web/20100218215504/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/9jp8d

On Wednesday 17th February 2010, @axlrose said:

Correction: In rereading I realized I addressed the clothing nonsense as soon as I was made aware not when it 1st happened, my bad. I tend to avoid media n' the net when touring so as not to have whatever negative nonsense or those tryin' 2 stir trouble interfere w/either the show or time needed elsewhere in prep as well as other GNR business. Too much goin' on to b throwin' sand in some idiot's sandbox. Also my comments aren't based on these relatively minor issues they go a fair way back w/each of those mentioned n' unfortunately several others. We aren't lookin' 4 free rides or handouts, give those to those u been but if ya wanna play nice we can too in fact we'd love to. Can't say we didn't make the effort. Peace!!
https://web.archive.org/web/20100220171600/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/9ot4u
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Post by Blackstar Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:04 am

TMZ had posted a photo article about the John Varvatos show under the title "Axl Rose sweat singing"

https://www.tmz.com/photos/image_jpg_20120503_0b31c2a52ee55e4297dba7f7f60795ca/

I guess that was what Axl was referring to with "I sweat nonsense".
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Post by Blackstar Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:07 am

Related article in The Rock Radio, Feb. 18, 2010:
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Axl Rose posts lengthy rant online

Guns N' Roses frontman and sole original member Axl Rose posted a lengthy rant at Twitlonger.com, a related Twitter site where one can post messages longer than 140 characters. In his post, Rose calls the band's recent surprise acoustic shows in New York "insane" and adds that reports about the band going on three hours late at one of them were inaccurate. Rose writes, "Goin' on late at Rose Bar nonsense: Nope, Nopity, Nope!! 1:30am on time! U got played!! We were asked to do a show for fans n' friends etc. We were told when to arrive n' when to play between 1 an 2am which we did exactly. We didn't perform for the press or their deadlines other than that they were there. We do our best provided we r treated in the same manner to be polite n' cordial."

Rose also comments on reports that he banned Slash-related clothing from the group's recent Canadian shows, saying, "Fake allegations from unreliable sources . . . fabricated from a 2001 bs RS piece from Rock N' Rio. Bottom line Never happened, end of story. F*** TMZ, ContactMusic, Spinner."

The singer also says that a concert in Toronto was delayed for just over an hour because of an injury-related situation.

Rose, as he has done in the past, reserves most of his wrath for the press, saying, "So in closing...F*** the LA Times, TMZ, Contact Music n' Spinner. I don't need 'forgiven' for alleged n' fabricated nonsense. I've no respect for mean spirited a***s gettin' paid talkin' s*** at other's expense or irresponsible biased partisan politics wanna be journalism by dated hacks."

Rose also used the post to reveal that Guns N' Roses is now managed by Doc McGhee, who has handled the careers of Bon Jovi, Motley Crue and Kiss throughout the years. G N' R recently parted ways with powerhouse manager Irving Azoff, who helped to get the band's 2008 album, Chinese Democracy, finally released after a 15-year wait.

Guns N' Roses will next head to South America for another round of shows there. A full U.S. tour has yet to be announced.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100222231632/http://www.therockradio.com/2010/02/axl-rose-posts-lengthy-rant-online.html
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Post by Soulmonster Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:43 am

Why is Axl talking about bad memories in connection with Rose Bar (Gramercy Park Hotel)? I know they often stayed at this hotel, and he got in a fight there in the 80s. Could it have been where Todd Crew ODed?
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Post by Blackstar Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:01 pm

@Soulmonster wrote:Why is Axl talking about bad memories in connection with Rose Bar (Gramercy Park Hotel)? I know they often stayed at this hotel, and he got in a fight there in the 80s. Could it have been where Todd Crew ODed?
Todd Crew ODed at the Milford Plaza, according to Slash's autobiography.
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Post by Soulmonster Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:40 am

So in closing...Fuck the LA Times, TMZ, Contact Music n' Spinner. I don't need "forgiven" for alleged n' fabricated nonsense. I've no respect for mean spirited aholes gettin' paid talkin' shit at other's expense or irresponsible biased partisan politics wanna be journalism by dated hacks. Go on! Back ur boy! But when he says he never killed no one that ain't exactly true. Yeah, that's right, stone cold. So if we happen to play your neighborhood or for that matter anywhere at anytime regardless of the circumstances, presales, public sales, give aways, even free shows consider yourself uninvited. It's a free country but you're formally n' publicly not welcome.

Bottom line is we ain't makin' efforts to rain on ur parade why piss on or take cheap shots at r's. Oh that's rt...how u make ur livin's all that counts not others, whatever. U ain't above anyone regardless of who or what corporation u work for n' unfortunately most of u'll get to learn that the hard way.


This must definitely be about Slash, and ties in with Axl's previous comments about the media being pro-Slash, and a comment to Slash claiming he didn't regret his past drug use because he never killed anyone. Must be about Todd Crew. Basically, Axl is accusing Slash of murder. Pretty hardcore.
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Post by Blackstar Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:44 am

I think he was referring specifically to this comment from Slash:
Piers Morgan: Do you miss heroin?

Slash: Not at the moment. Three years ago, I got really stressed because Velvet Revolver were in a state, and my marriage was in a state, and I went back down that road for a while, and while it was fun for a minute, it wasn't nearly as much fun as it had been before. I'd just grown out of that lifestyle.

Piers Morgan: Did the fact you now have children make a difference?

Slash: Yeah, of course. It helped me put a pen in it. I think I needed to go back and have one last go at it, to get over it. And I don't regret any of it. I don't believe in having regrets. I haven't killed anyone, or anything like that. But I did go into rehab after that, for a month, and I really haven't wanted drugs since then.
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Post by Soulmonster Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:57 am

@Blackstar wrote:I think he was referring specifically to this comment from Slash:


Piers Morgan: Do you miss heroin?

Slash: Not at the moment. Three years ago, I got really stressed because Velvet Revolver were in a state, and my marriage was in a state, and I went back down that road for a while, and while it was fun for a minute, it wasn't nearly as much fun as it had been before. I'd just grown out of that lifestyle.

Piers Morgan: Did the fact you now have children make a difference?

Slash: Yeah, of course. It helped me put a pen in it. I think I needed to go back and have one last go at it, to get over it. And I don't regret any of it. I don't believe in having regrets. I haven't killed anyone, or anything like that. But I did go into rehab after that, for a month, and I really haven't wanted drugs since then.


https://www.a-4-d.com/t3004-2010-02-01-gq-when-piers-met-slash


Yes, I figured that out, too, and have updated the various threads. Among all the things that Axl said about Slash, this is probably the most devastating- Did it result in a lot of press coverage or didn't the media pick up on it? I can't remember. Anyway, I will find out soon Smile

Slash mentions not having killed anyone an additional time in this same interview.
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Post by Blackstar Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:04 am

The media didn't pick it up, as far as I've seen. Probably they didn't get it.
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Post by Soulmonster Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:08 am

@Blackstar wrote:The media didn't pick it up, as far as I've seen. Probably they didn't get it.

Yeah, I guess so. I bet Axl is happy now it never was picked up.
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