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34. 2014: END TO THE NUGNR ERA; BUMBLEFOOT CLANDESTINELY LEAVES THE BAND

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Post by Soulmonster Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:31 pm

SEPTEMBER 10, 2014
SLASH RELEASES 'WORLD ON FIRE'


In July 2013, it was reported Slash was again working with Miles Kennedy and the Conspirators for a new album, tentativelly planned to come out in 2014 [The Morning Call, July 12, 2013].

Talking about Kennedy and how they came to work together back in 2007 [?]:

I was really curious to see what he sang like. And since I was doing this record with all these different singers, I asked him to come in. And he was just phenomenal, and … I really liked him as a person. You know, his whole personality and his attitude and everything really jelled with mine.

The longer we knew each other, the more I really just liked working with him. I thought we had a really great chemistry and we started writing on the road.

I put together what I thought was, you know, a quick pickup band [to support the first record on tour]. But it turned out to be, like, the perfect bunch of guys. And I just thought that, after we'd been on the road for awhile, we should just go in the studio and make a record with these guys.


And on his role as band leader:

I've always put bands together; I'm either in one or putting one together. … In working with these guys, I'm really a band guy. So the only difference about me being in a band and what I'm doing now is that I actually lead this band. It's a sort of conscious knowledge between everybody [laughs].

But I still treat it as a group. It's just more directed by me than a lot of the bands that I've been in before, where it was more of a joint effort. But this bunch of guys is very happy just to have me sort of steer the ship, and they just kind of go along with it because we all want to sort of do the same thing, you know?

It's sort of a combination of both [a solo album and a band effort]. It's definitely more of a band situation, and how it relates to me as a solo artist is only just that I present the music and I run the band. But even then, we all do what we want, we all have the same goals and the same desires as far as working together and what the band should be doing and all that kind of stuff. So more than anything, I just deal with the mundane, busy work that needs to get done. And, like I said, I present the music to Myles [Kennedy, vocals] and Myles writes the lyrics, so we have a little bit of a partnership that way. And it's really simple. Sometimes people try to make it more complicated [than it is].


Being asked what the new album will sound like:

There's never anything verbally that I can say. You know, I'm really excited about the material and it's great. I don't know what particular direction it is. It's a hard-rock record, because that's what I do, but you really can't say anything about it until it's out.

And then each person has to ascertain for themselves what they think it is.


In December Slash updated on twitter that they had completed 16 tracks for the record [Twitter/Blabbermouth, December 19, 2013].

By April 2014, the record was finished recorded [Kerrang! via Blabbermouth, April 28, 2014].

Y'know, all I can tell you is that it's a really fucking great record. I'm very proud of it, but I don't want to get into, Oh, dude, it's epic,' or, 'It's the heaviest thing ever.' It's very rock and roll, and, as always, it's very diverse in feel, and I'm just super, super proud of everything that we collectively put into making the thing. It's just going to be a bitchin' record.


Slash continued recording live but this time with guitar overdubs:

We did this record to tape, and I've been recording to tape forever. I've only done Velvet Revolver records to Pro Tools, and I can't stand that sort of digital approach to recording drums and guitars and stuff. My first solo record was to tape, and with 'Apocalyptic Love', we decided to go in and just do it live. That was one of those record that, when you listen to it, everything sounds a certain way because we recorded it in the moment. [...] I wanted to do a more produced album, where we go in and play everything live, and then we overdub the guitars. I overdubbed all of them using all the live tracks. I just wanted to get more of a dense sound and whatnot, and be able to put some overdubs on it to make things more interesting or harmonize or whatever it was. So this is more of a produced record, and that's the main progression, in my mind.

It was nice on this record to go in knowing I was gonna do guitars later and just whip through these songs. I didn't feel the pressure of having to play the final recording and the final guitars at the moment. You know what I mean? So then it was very tight but it was very loose and it was a very quick process. For 17 songs, I think we were in there for just under two weeks. Then the daunting part comes where you have to go and do all those guitars [laughs]. And I was doing the guitar parts for two players 'cause Myles wasn't playing guitar. You just go in and do that. I'm very passionate it and I love seeing the songs go from an inkling of an idea to a complete arrangement. You get in the studio and then see them to their fruition and get the sounds.


Talking about the record in May:

It's just a great record. It's done. We had a blast in the studio. All the guys are great — really great personalities to deal with, really talented individuals as musicians. So it's just a breeze in the studio. But this particular record being our second one together, it really showed that the band has evolved a lot and that we have a really great chemistry. When it comes out, you'll know what I'm talking about.

I wrote the majority of the music when I was on the Apocalyptic Love tour. You know, just sitting around in dressing rooms and hotel rooms for a year, I accumulated all these ideas. Then in September [2013] I sat down and went through everything I’d recorded on my voice memo on my phone and picked out about 20 different ideas then we went into pre-production in October and just started jamming.

We were there for a couple of months, holed up in Mates rehearsal studio in Los Angeles. There was the whole writing process then once we had all the songs down we rehearsed the shit out of it, and then we brought the producer, Mike Baskette, in. And so we went through another phase of fine tooth-combing everything and getting the arrangements together. Myles came down and started working on his vocal parts… and by the time we were done with all that we were ready to go in and just bang the stuff out. It was a very quick process in the studio.

The one thing about this record is that it was almost like it wrote itself, it was very effortless. And that happens very rarely, when there’s a certain energy that carries the creative process and it’s almost like you’re not in control of it and you just ride that wave. That’s how this record was. I can’t think of any outside influence other than just going with this creative flow.”


Later in May it was announced that the album, World On Fire, would be released on September 15 via Slash's own label Dik Hayd International [Press Release/Blabbermouth, May 27, 2014].



World On Fire
September 15, 2014



Talking about the difference between Apocayptic Love and World On Fire:

The biggest difference is that the band has also has naturally evolved with so much touring and all of these different things. There's a difference in musicianship that shows on this record and the songwriting skills especially. The other difference is the fact that we recorded both albums live, but we kept the first one ("Apocalyptic Love") just live. That was it. There was no overdubs or layering or any kind of studio techniques. With "World On Fire", I wanted to do guitar harmonies and double up parts and just create sounds. It's a little more produced record in that sense.


As for choosing the song World On Fire as the first single:

I think there's a lot of singles on the record, but it's a good kick-off song. It's up-tempo, aggressive, it's a fun song. I love the whole world on fire, larger-than-life kind of vibe that the title and lyrics have.


And talking about the name:

To be literal about it, we have the global warming thing. But that's not the catalyst for the title. "World On Fire" is more of a tongue-in-cheek, positive, fun thing — it has a lot of sexual connotations in the actual song itself. It's a euphemism for going a little bit crazy and pulling out all the stops.


For World On Fire, Slash went with Michael "Elvis" Baskette, who had produced the last Alter Bridge album, as the producer instead of Eric Valentine:

With all due credit to Eric, Eric is awesome. That record I did with all the singers and stuff ["Slash"], if it weren't for him I don't think I would have actually been able to pull that off. 'Cause that was the kind of record where it should have been an impossible record to make. There was so many moving parts but it just happened together. When I first started playing Eric the demos when there was no vocals on anything, he got it. Eric is a genius and he just wasn't available at this time.
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Post by Soulmonster Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:34 pm

NOVEMBER 2014
MARC CANTER WORKS ON THE SCRIPT FOR A GUNS N' ROSES MOVIE


Despite Slash's disdain for a Guns N' Roses movie [see previous chapter], in November 2014, Marc Canter announced that a script for such a movie was currently in the works based on Canter's "Reckless Road" book [for more information about this book, see previous chapters] [Mygnrforum/Blabbermouth, November 15, 2014]. Canter would post on the Guns N' Roses forum mygnrforum, talking about the movie-in-development:

I do have a big say-so on the script, which is still being put together now, but so far looking cool. [...] I am going to see that everyone in the cast is doing their job and doing justice to the band. Since I was there, I know what the dialog was between the band for many of the events that took place. When you find out who is making the movie, you will then understand that it will be very cool. [...] I'm proud of all the hard work that was put into this project and it's just going to kick ass! In no way will it be a cheesy movie like 'Rock Star'.


When asked if Axl had approved the movie, Canter responded:

Axl doesn't support anything to do with the old band except playing their songs live. However, I do think he will be happy with the fact that it will clear up some stories that have been said about him from those days that were told incompletely. So setting the record straight on some of those evens will be a good thing for him to see happen. [...] Axl should know by now that I have his back and that it will be done right. If I'm involved in a Guns N' Roses project, then you know I have their backs.


Discussing how far they had come with the movie:

The people I'm working with are the best ones to do this project. There is so much detail in the way it all came together that tells the killer rock 'n' roll story of the best band around. Why hide it? I have all the resources to help make it right. [...] When the script is done, the band will be able to look at it and help fix things that are off a bit. The goal is to get it right. [...] No one has been cast at this point but I would expect to see a few A-list people in the cast. [We're] just working on [putting together] the perfect script. Then they will move on to the next step, and yes, it will bring in a whole new slew of fans and sell a shitload of records for the band. Also the band will do well on the music used for the movie.
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Post by Soulmonster Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:35 pm

NOVEMBER 2014-FEBRUARY 2015
PUTTING THE FINISHING TOUCHES ON THE NEXT ALBUM?


As discussed previously, as band members were left to pursue side projects as the band went on a touring break after the residency, the hope was that Axl would finish the next record [see previous chapter]. And in November, 2014, band members started to sound more concrete about the possibility of a new record, with Dizzy saying it was in "the works" and that "people" were now indeed "going through" what they already had recorded:

There's a lot of material that's already done and I think it's in the process of being finished and eventually we'll pick out which songs need to come out with which other songs. So that's in the works. Hopefully it will be out really soon.

There's a wealth of material that's been recorded and written and a lot of it's done, a lot of it's being done and I know there's people going through it now and it'll be out soon. [...] it's just a collection of stuff from over the years, but you know, great great songs that need to be heard.

Last I heard... you know, there's a lot of music that has been recorded, a lot of stuff that's done, lots of stuff that's almost done and it's, I think, it's just a matter of picking out which songs are going to come out, you know, in the next phase. And last I heard that's what was happening.


And Richard stating that both he and DJ had worked on music (we already knew that DJ had recorded songs he wanted on the next album), but interestingly not with Bumblefoot:

DJ and I have worked on stuff… Nobody's worked on stuff with Ron.


Dizzy would also state that the unreleased material wasn't just "leftovers" from the Chinese Democracy sessions but also contained newer music recorded after this:

Well, you know, I mean you can call it "leftovers" but since no one's heard it, it's new material. But there's stuff that's been recorded and conceived since then as well. But I think you know with everybody that's played on that stuff, it's fantastic music and I really hope it gets out because people need to hear it, it's great stuff.


And furthermore, Richard would say that Axl was currently in the studio recording more vocals:

There's so much stuff that's recorded, there's so much stuff that was done. I mean, there's three albums' worth of material, easy… [...] I know this week [Axl]'s recording a lot of stuff, vocally.


Richard would also imply that Axl had take ideas from DJ and him to use in songs:

That camp is very… I don't know why. It's just that they're very… Axl is very secretive. He doesn't want stuff getting out. He wants to create stuff and then release it when it's ready. Which I… I get it. He's also a bit of a perfectionist, as you can imagine.

The way [Axl] generally works is that he doesn't wanna take an idea that DJ sent and… What he'll do is he'll take a little piece that I sent, he'll take a little piece that DJ sent on another track, and he's always done that. Back even with the 'Appetite' stuff, he would take a little bit from this, a little bit from that, and then put it together. And when you listen to it, you can sort of hear it. When you listen to the tracks, you can hear that it's… Especially on 'Illusions', the opuses, [where] he took little bits from different people and put them together. He's got a real talent for that.


When discussing the new, unreleased material, Richard would also imply that some of it dated back to when Slash was in the band:

A lot of the new stuff that [we were] working on, some of that stuff [are ideas that came] from nothing and some of the stuff is stuff that [we had] been working on that were ideas that were already there. Some of the stuff Slash did that was the beginning of the seed of the song that's been around for a while.


In early 2015, Richard would say the process of working on the new album "sort of stops and starts":

I don't think there's going to be any touring soon. We have been working on material and that sort of starts and stops and, you know, but we're still plugging away at it.


When asked if this was frustrating:

Is it frustrating? You know, if I didn't have other things going on, it probably would be, but, you know, I've got other things that I focus on. You know, I've been doing GN'R now for what, 13-14 years? It's the nature of what it is.
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