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Post by Soulmonster Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:41 am

Let's find out what @Blackstar and I think about it!
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Post by Blackstar Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:54 am

I think it's definitely better than Silkworms. I like the punk edge of it, guitars and bass are great and I'm a fan of Axl's low voice. But I'm not sure if I like it overall. It's okay, I guess.
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Post by Soulmonster Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:57 am

@Blackstar wrote:I think it's definitely better than Silkworms. I like the punk edge of it, guitars and bass are great and I'm a fan of Axl's low voice. But I'm not sure if I like it overall. It's okay, I guess.

I added a poll option Smile
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Would be cool of some of our lurkers chimed in Smile
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Post by Blackstar Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:17 am

I also like the attitude behind releasing it, although I would prefer something else as the first new GN'R song since forever.
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Post by Soulmonster Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:52 am

I like it because it means Axl is not giving up on all the material he created in the CD era. I like that stubbornness and there are so many other songs from that period I would like to hear, even if they are reworked to include Slash and Duff.

I also like how he doesn't give a fuck. So many probably advised against this being the first single, but he goes his own way as usual. I like that attitude. He is not compromising. It is not the most sensible thing to do, I suspect, both in terms of pleasing Slash and Duff, nor from a sales perspective, nor from uniting the fan base. But he does it his way. And I admire that.

Lastly, I like that the song in itself is dividing. Appetite was divisive too. It was a shot in the arm back in 1987. They could have played it safe and released something we all expected, but they didn't. And that's kind of the GN'R way, too. "Here's something you didn't expect, take it or leave it".

And the song is much, much better now with the guitars added. It won't make my top 10 GN'R songs, or top 20, but it is nothing to be ashamed of.
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Post by Blackstar Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:05 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if this was among the songs Slash and Duff dug the most. I can imagine Slash being more keen to work on something like this than on songs with complicated arrangements, orchestration, etc.

Plus, to quote "Vampire Soul" at mygnrforum, "Slash's instagram is like Silkworms come to life in pictures" Very Happy And of course the video looks like it's been taken directly from Slash's instagram.
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Post by Soulmonster Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:28 pm

@Blackstar wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if this was among the songs Slash and Duff dug the most. I can imagine Slash being more keen to work on something like this than on songs with complicated arrangements, orchestration, etc.

Plus, as it's been pointed out on the forums, and to quote "Vampire Soul" at mygnrforum, "Slash's instagram is like Silkworms come to life in pictures" Very Happy And of course the video looks like it's been taken directly from Slash's instagram.

Haha, yes.
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Post by Shackler Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:57 pm

I love it! Woke up this morning after the show and my phone was exploding with notifications about the gig and new music. Finally feels good to be a GNR fan again!
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Post by Soulmonster Fri Aug 06, 2021 5:15 pm

Yeah, this has definitely boosted many fans' morale. Nice to see people being excited again and daring to dream of a new album.
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Post by Johan Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:59 pm

I just out of the blue got a Spotify notification about this song today!

Recognized Silkworms immediately. Not too bad, but indeed a brave choice as a first new single in forever. Hard School would've made more sense.

So, this means that they will actually release a full album in the foreseeable future??
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Post by Soulmonster Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:06 pm

@Johan wrote:I just out of the blue got a Spotify notification about this song today!

Recognized Silkworms immediately. Not too bad, but indeed a brave choice as a first new single in forever. Hard School would've made more sense.

So, this means that they will actually release a full album in the foreseeable future??


I have always believed a new album was in the cards, and now it seems most fans think so too. I wouldn't hold my breath, though, this is GN'R we are talking about and it could of course be years. But yeah, they have worked on new songs all of them and releasing a single would often indicate that an album is heading our way.
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Post by Soulmonster Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:07 pm

And Hard Skool (new spelling?) is expected to be released as a second single later during the ongoing tour.
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Post by Johan Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:14 pm

Normal bands would release a single or 2 , 3 before releasing a full-length in some months time, but GnR is not a normal band haha!
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Post by Misfit79 Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:47 pm

I really like it. Slash’s playing on it is what is really keeping me listening to it again and again. He has made this shit song into a decent one for me.

I do wonder if Axl liked what Slash sent him straight away or if he made him do loads of takes and frustrate the hell out of him 😄 I’d love to know but I bet we never will.
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Post by Uli Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:37 am

The song is okay, better than "nothing" new at all. Quite a surprise that they pulled out "Silkworms" after 20 years. Everybody seemed to think "Hard Skool" would be played (as it was in soundchecks) and then they do this one. Surprise. Hay

@Johan wrote:Normal bands would release a single or 2 ,  3 before releasing a full-length in some months time, but GnR is not a normal band haha!

Does anyone remember the "Better" video? Or the same song being used in a Harley Davidson spot (then pulled)? (Must've been around 2006...) Razz
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Post by ludurigan Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:22 am

@Soulmonster wrote:I like it because it means Axl is not giving up on all the material he created in the CD era. I like that stubbornness and there are so many other songs from that period I would like to hear, even if they are reworked to include Slash and Duff.

I also like how he doesn't give a fuck. So many probably advised against this being the first single, but he goes his own way as usual. I like that attitude. He is not compromising. It is not the most sensible thing to do, I suspect, both in terms of pleasing Slash and Duff, nor from a sales perspective, nor from uniting the fan base. But he does it his way. And I admire that.

Lastly, I like that the song in itself is dividing. Appetite was divisive too. It was a shot in the arm back in 1987. They could have played it safe and released something we all expected, but they didn't. And that's kind of the GN'R way, too. "Here's something you didn't expect, take it or leave it".

And the song is much, much better now with the guitars added. It won't make my top 10 GN'R songs, or top 20, but it is nothing to be ashamed of.

those are good points you make but...

Yes, I can agree that it is good that Axl is not giving up on all the material he created in the CD era, but if he is planning to use that material why take YEARS to release it? I am sure Slash and Duff and the 4 Axl employees can (or could have) re-arrange(d) and re-record(ed) ALL these songs in two months time... They could have done that in 2016 or 2017. Released an album in 2017... That would have allowed for a much better tour with new songs and -- seriously -- that would allow Axl to get that material off his chest once and for all and... move the fuck on! I can see how you like that stubbornness and I kinda respect that in people, but, fuck!!, do it faster!

Yes I can agree that it looks like Axl doesn't give a fuck. I can not agree though that "so many probably advised against this being the first single". To the best of my knowledge there is absolutely NO ONE advising Axl on anything, specially against his decisions, he has been surrounded by yes-men and yes-women for years now and there is no indication that this changed with the return of Slash and Duff. If the Matt Sorum biography story about how Duff and Slash didn't want to play with the Axl drummer is true, that proves that they are accepting the unacceptable and completely compromising the music/sound of the band for... (money? the chance to be in GNR again? whatever reason they have to do it...). I looks like this is basically the same old Axl show that has been going on since September 1991...

One last thing.. I am not sure I understood what you mean by "divisive" regarding Appetite... but to my understanding Appetite was everything BUT "divisive". Not sure if you were alive at that time (I was), but that album had absolutely nothing "divisive" about it. EVERYONE who listened to it loved it really, really fast and loved it a LOT. IIt had crossover appeal due to Sweet Child o' Mine, that was MUCH bigger in 1988 and 1989 and 1990 than November Rain ever was in 1991 and 1992 and 1993... I mean, it was insane... And that kinda "reaction" to Appetite goes on to this day... Even people who are not really into GN'R are fast to say that it is a very good album...

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Post by Guns123 Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:06 pm

@Soulmonster wrote:Let's find out what  @Blackstar and I think about it!
I think Absurd is cool. I think the demo version should be released on live EP with studio Slash Absurd.
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Post by Soulmonster Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:08 pm

I haven't really listened to it much since its release, but I still like the fact that they dare to not go in the obvious direction and start with a single that is a bit out there. This is definitely not a song from a nostalgia band, and I like that.
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