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Date:
October 23, 1986.

Venue:
Arlington Theatre.

Location:
Los Angeles, USA.

Setlist:
01. Shadow of Your Love
02. It's So Easy
03. Mr. Brownstone
04. Nightrain
05. Think About You
06. Whole Lotta Rosie

Line-up:
Izzy Stradlin (rhythm guitarist), Slash (lead guitarist), Duff McKagan (bass) and Steven Adler (drums).

Notes:
Opening for Alice Cooper. Axl arrived late and wasn't allowed in so Duff and Izzy had to trade vocals.

Quotes:
When we did that show, we were supposed to do the hour-long ride out there together, but Axl insisted on driving with his girlfriend Erin at the very last minute. We were all aginst it, as was Alan, but Axl convinced him that there was nothing to worry about. We got to the gig; Axl was nowhere to be found, but was apparently on his way. It came time to take the stage - no Axl - so Izzy and Duff and Stave and I got out there and started playing without him. Izzy and Duff sang "Whole Lotta Rosie" by AC/DC and a few other covers. We were opening for Alice Cooper but basically that set was a drunken jam fit for a bar - except we were in an arena. It got so bad that at one point we asked the audience to sing lead and then asked if there was a lead singer in the house. We were friends with the crowd for a minute, but that quickly changed; we ended up insulting them and throwing things at them. It was ridiculous. We stayed up there for the allotted amount of time and then retreated from a totally embarrassing disaster. We got out of there immediately and drove back to Hollywood, so pissed that we talked about kicking Axl out of the band that night and looking for a new singer [Slash's autobiography, p 216-217]
The night of the Alice Cooper gig, Axl showed up late again and then was unable to get into the venue. Izzy and I sang. At the time it was almost funny - though we were definitely pissed, too, and we absolutely trashed the dressing room. We traded some words with Axl when we found him in the parking lot afterward, but at the end of the day the situation lacked much in the way of consequences. We did the show, we got paid, and the crowd was there to see Alice anyway. That was that. For now [Duff's autobiography, "It's So Easy", 2011, p. 119-120]
In May [Steven's got the date wrong], we were given a great opportunity to do a single show with Alice Cooper in Santa Barbara. [...]On the day of the show, we all piled into our new white van (we got another one after Slash totaled the first), while Axl was just standing there, outside. We were yelling to him,"C'mon, Axl." He was all like, "Naw, I'll meet you there; some chick is gonna take me." [...] We were ready to go [on stage], but sure enough, someone was still missing. Next thing you know, we're supposed to be on in five minutes and everyone is screaming, "Where's Axl?" We stalled as long as we could, but we really had to get out there out of respect for Alice. At eight o'clock we hit the stage as scheduled. Without Axl, we just did our best and improvised. We did 'It's So Easy' and Duff sang. After that, we just performed blues jams. We would always include a blazing blues jam in our sets, so we still managed to rock out for the audience, and I don't think they felt incredibly cheated. Izzy and Duff screamed a few words here and there. Duff's tech, Mike "McBob" Mayhue, may have sung something, too. Bottom line was, without Axl present, we didn't deliver the true Guns N' Roses as promised. We just played, packed up our shit, and got out of there. Because of my worship for Alice, and my feeling about what Guns N' Roses was about, it was one of the most humiliating nights of my life [Steven's autobiography, "My Appetite for Destruction", 2010, p. 122-123]

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Post by Soulmonster Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:20 pm

The first show I ever did with them was opening for Alice Cooper in Santa Barbara, and Axl failed to show up. The band were in the dressing room saying: “We can’t go on.” I said: “You fucking get on that stage. I don’t care who sings what, but you will do a show.”

Izzy and Duff sang Whole Lotta Rosie and a few other covers. That set was a drunken jam fit for a bar – except we were in an arena.
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Post by Soulmonster Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:57 pm

Steve Darrow attended this show:

Basically one of the first, "Oh, where's Axl? He's really late," incidents. [...] Alice had just made his big comeback in '86, right. Constrictor, I guess, right? So he hadn't been doing anything for years and he was retooling his whole band and his whole image to be more 80s metal, right? And in an interim, he would do these warmup shows in like the suburbs before he'd go on a full tour. [...] Full on the same production in a nice big place or a medium sized place, but it just would be like a warm up show like before they were unadvertised, you know. And Guns N' Roses got asked to be because... When the Cathouse club with Riki Rachtman and Axl, they were all a big part of that scene. And Alice's people were sort of started hanging around noticing that this, "Okay, this is where the people that we need to reach are in this pool. We need to start grabbing from this pool of people." So they got GN'R, they had been signed, but still no record, no one knew who they were yet. They got to play in Santa Barbara, in a big stage, opening for Alice, which was all of our idols, even them. And we went to the show and it was, they were all up on stage, set up and we're, "Okay." And they were like, kind of like, "You only got like," a whatever, "40 minutes set" or something, you know, "'cause you're a developing band and no one really cares. They want to see Alice." And they're like just stalling a little bit, in five minutes. And there's like, Axl's not here. And you know, it's like, "Well, where is he?" "He called from somewhere, he said he was just leaving the Valley." It was like, you know, half hour before it was time to be on stage and it's an hour and a half drive, you know, that kind of thing. And so they stalled and stalled and stalled. And finally, they said, you know, the Alice people were furious, like they were like, "What the fuck is this? We give you guys a chance. This is what we get." [...] So it turns out that Axl actually sort of showed up, but they were like, "We got to start playing. Let's just play. Let's play some instrumental. We'll just we got to make some sound because we only have 15 minutes to play now, because..." They started playing some songs and then Izzy would like kind of sing, try to sing and you could tell that they were just like, "Oh shit." And then Ronnie Schneider, you probably know his name, he was in Roadcrew, the bass player. And he was one of the early roadies for Guns N' Roses, like the whole first kind of wave of tours that they did. He was like the right hand man, cause he was buddy of Slash's and stuff. He was like the roadie and he just, he came up and he's like, "You want to sing?" And the did Whole Lotta Rosie, AC/DC, they used to do that in their set, you know, or some AC/DC song and kind of, you know, kind of got through it, but it wasn't like at an Axl level. And then they were sort of like, "Okay, thank you, good night." And people were just sort of like, "What happened?" You know, then Alice came on. And then, I mean, I was friends with some of the Alice people, manager, mint[?], and they were like, backstage, you know, going, "Okay, we fucked up. We're gonna set an example. Not only will you not ever play with Alice Cooper again, but we're gonna make sure that you have a really hard time playing anywhere," like almost like a mafia move, you know? And then within a year, there were like best buds. "Hey, come on, come on stage with me," you know?
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