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October 8, 2022
Estadio San Marcos, Lima, Peru
Setlist:
01. It's So Easy
02. Mr. Brownstone
03. Chinese Democracy
04. Slither
Link Wray's Rumble intro
05. Welcome To The Jungle
06. Better  
07. Double Talkin' Jive
08. Live And Let Die
09. Estranged  
10. Shadow Of Your Love
11. Rocket Queen
12. You Could Be Mine
13. Reckless Life
14. Attitude
15. Absurd
16. Hard Skool
17. Civil War (with Machine Gun outro)
18. Sorry
Slash Guitar Solo (Albert King's Born Under A Bad Sign jam)
19. Sweet Child O' Mine
20. November Rain
21. Wichita Lineman
22. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
23. Nightrain
Encore:
24. Coma
The Beatles' Blackbird intro
25. Patience
26. Don't Cry
27. Paradise City

Date:
October 8, 2022.

Venue:
Estadio San Marcos.

Location:
Lima, Peru.

Line-up:
Axl Rose: Vocals and piano
Slash: Lead and rhythm guitar, and backing vocals
Richard Fortus: Rhythm and lead guitar, and backing vocals
Duff McKagan: Bass and backing vocals
Dizzy Reed: Piano and backing vocals
Frank Ferrer: Drums
Melissa Reese: Keyboard and backing vocals

Notes:
This show was originally scheduled for March 24, 2020, but was cancelled due to the Covid-19 outbreak.

Poster:
(Artist: Pedro Correa)

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Post by Soulmonster Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:17 pm

This will be GN'R's 1000th live show!!
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Post by Soulmonster Sat Oct 08, 2022 12:01 pm

It will be Axl's 999th (he missed one show in 1986), Dizzy's 770th, Duff's 655th, Slash's 642nd, Richard's 572nd, Frank's 532nd and Melissa's 225th show

Here's to another 1000!! Very Happy
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Post by ludurigan Sat Oct 08, 2022 2:13 pm

Soulmonster wrote:This will be GN'R's 1000th live show!!

Do they know about it?
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Post by Soulmonster Sat Oct 08, 2022 2:35 pm

ludurigan wrote:
Soulmonster wrote:This will be GN'R's 1000th live show!!


Do they know about it?

Yes, I told them.
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Post by Blackstar Sat Oct 08, 2022 3:34 pm

There's a chance that it's one or two shows off - as there might be a couple of early shows that we're missing and, on the other hand, it's possible that a couple of other shows in our list didn't happen - but it's definitely close to 1000. Smile
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Post by Soulmonster Sat Oct 08, 2022 4:39 pm

Most likely it is a couple of shows off, but it is as close as we can get.
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Post by ludurigan Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:44 pm

Soulmonster wrote:
ludurigan wrote:

Soulmonster wrote:This will be GN'R's 1000th live show!!



Do they know about it?


Yes, I told them.


Can't tell if you are joking here or being serious
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Post by Soulmonster Sun Oct 09, 2022 2:54 am

ludurigan wrote:

Soulmonster wrote:


ludurigan wrote:



Soulmonster wrote:This will be GN'R's 1000th live show!!


Do they know about it?


Yes, I told them.


Can't tell if you are joking here or being serious

I talked to Beta who told Axl, I told Richard, and I tweeted about it and hashtagged all of them.
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Post by ludurigan Sun Oct 09, 2022 3:54 am

Soulmonster wrote:
ludurigan wrote:


Soulmonster wrote:



ludurigan wrote:




Soulmonster wrote:This will be GN'R's 1000th live show!!



Do they know about it?



Yes, I told them.



Can't tell if you are joking here or being serious


I talked to Beta who told Axl, I told Richard, and I tweeted about it and hashtagged all of them.

Wow I didn't imagine you have direct access to these guys.

By "talking" you mean on the phone? Via e-mail? Personally?

I have about 1987 requests to these guys and right now I am thinking to myself: "Should I ask SoulMonster to ask Beta to ask Axl to redo the mix of Ritz 1991? Or should I be bold and ask SoulMonster to ask Beta to ask Axl to get Izzy back in the band?"

Oh, and please don't ever become Jarmo, that is a very important thing that you can not forget.

Oh, and one more thing, I still can't tell if you are joking or being serious 2022.10.08 - Estadio San Marcos, Lima, Peru 1f602





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Post by Blackstar Sun Oct 09, 2022 4:10 am

ludurigan wrote:Oh, and one more thing, I still can't tell if you are joking or being serious  2022.10.08 - Estadio San Marcos, Lima, Peru 1f602
I'm sure @Soulmonster is being serious Smile
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Post by Soulmonster Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:08 am

ludurigan wrote:Wow I didn't imagine you have direct access to these guys.

By "talking" you mean on the phone? Via e-mail? Personally?

I have about 1987 requests to these guys and right now I am thinking to myself: "Should I ask SoulMonster to ask Beta to ask Axl to redo the mix of Ritz 1991? Or should I be bold and ask SoulMonster to ask Beta to ask Axl to get Izzy back in the band?"

Oh, and please don't ever become Jarmo, that is a very important thing that you can not forget.

Oh, and one more thing, I still can't tell if you are joking or being serious  2022.10.08 - Estadio San Marcos, Lima, Peru 1f602

I interviewed Richard some years back and since then I have had his contact information. I don't know from where I got Beta's email address. And hashtagging people on twitter is just part of that technology. I don't know if they even see my tweet. Anyway, Beta said she told Axl so at least Axl is aware of it. Still, it is just approximately 1000 shows. There is a possibility there are some unknown shows, and a smaller possibility that some of the shows we have in the database never actually happened. And then comes how we define a show, is it a show if it is a gig to just record a new music video (even if they play some additional songs for a selected audience), or if they play at a fraternity party, or if they are part of a larger lineup celebrating Freddie Mercury? I suppose to some extent this is subjective and others might conclude differently than what I have done.

No point in asking me to ask them anything Smile Besides, they are so active on social media that it is easy for anyone to ask them anything. They will most likely ignore you.

And no, I have no plans of giving up my current life for trailing a rock and roll band around the world.
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Post by lipeguns Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:20 am

Soulmonster wrote:It will be Axl's 999th (he missed one show in 1986), Dizzy's 770th, Duff's 655th, Slash's 642nd, Richard's 572nd, Frank's 532nd and Melissa's 225th show

Here's to another 1000!! Very Happy

Good to know!

Axl's 998th because in 1988 he didn't sing at the second Irvine show. Razz

But, yes, it could be the Axl's 999th because the band played a gig in March 14, 1986 at Raji's not listed here, neither in gnrontour and Reckless Road book:

2022.10.08 - Estadio San Marcos, Lima, Peru 1Gcorln
This mag belongs to Tim Troccoli.

So, the Chile'22 gig was the 1000th of the GN'R! Wink
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Post by Soulmonster Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:34 am

lipeguns wrote:
Soulmonster wrote:It will be Axl's 999th (he missed one show in 1986), Dizzy's 770th, Duff's 655th, Slash's 642nd, Richard's 572nd, Frank's 532nd and Melissa's 225th show

Here's to another 1000!! Very Happy


Good to know!

Axl's 998th because in 1988 he didn't sing at the second Irvine show. Razz

But, yes, it could be the Axl's 999th because the band played a gig in March 14, 1986 at Raji's not listed here, neither in gnrontour and Reckless Road book:

2022.10.08 - Estadio San Marcos, Lima, Peru 1Gcorln
This mag belongs to Tim Troccoli.

So, the Chile'22 gig was the 1000th of the GN'R! Wink

I haven't considered the June 9, 1988, show at Irvine Meadows as a GN'R show. GN'R was off the tour by then and as far as I know, the rest of the band only played a couple of songs. But this is a good example of the subjectivity of this.

Great find on that poster! I will look more into this later (about to board a plane now).
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Post by Blackstar Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:21 am

lipeguns wrote:
Good to know!

Axl's 998th because in 1988 he didn't sing at the second Irvine show. Razz

But, yes, it could be the Axl's 999th because the band played a gig in March 14, 1986 at Raji's not listed here, neither in gnrontour and Reckless Road book:

2022.10.08 - Estadio San Marcos, Lima, Peru 1Gcorln
This mag belongs to Tim Troccoli.

So, the Chile'22 gig was the 1000th of the GN'R! Wink
Good find!

The listing in L.A. Weekly (March 13-20, 1986) doesn't mention GN'R though, so they probably didn't play eventually:

2022.10.08 - Estadio San Marcos, Lima, Peru 1986_043
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Post by Blackstar Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:55 am

Setlist added.

Pictures from the show (by Del James):

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Post by Soulmonster Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:45 am

Blackstar wrote:
lipeguns wrote:
Good to know!

Axl's 998th because in 1988 he didn't sing at the second Irvine show. Razz

But, yes, it could be the Axl's 999th because the band played a gig in March 14, 1986 at Raji's not listed here, neither in gnrontour and Reckless Road book:

2022.10.08 - Estadio San Marcos, Lima, Peru 1Gcorln
This mag belongs to Tim Troccoli.

So, the Chile'22 gig was the 1000th of the GN'R! Wink

Good find!

The listing in L.A. Weekly (March 13-20, 1986) doesn't mention GN'R though, so they probably didn't play eventually:

2022.10.08 - Estadio San Marcos, Lima, Peru 1986_043

Thanks! I will make a note about this in the history section later.
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Post by ludurigan Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:21 pm

Soulmonster wrote:
I interviewed Richard some years back and since then I have had his contact information. I don't know from where I got Beta's email address. And hashtagging people on twitter is just part of that technology. I don't know if they even see my tweet. Anyway, Beta said she told Axl so at least Axl is aware of it. Still, it is just approximately 1000 shows. There is a possibility there are some unknown shows, and a smaller possibility that some of the shows we have in the database never actually happened. And then comes how we define a show, is it a show if it is a gig to just record a new music video (even if they play some additional songs for a selected audience), or if they play at a fraternity party, or if they are part of a larger lineup celebrating Freddie Mercury? I suppose to some extent this is subjective and others might conclude differently than what I have done.

No point in asking me to ask them anything Smile Besides, they are so active on social media that it is easy for anyone to ask them anything. They will most likely ignore you.

And no, I have no plans of giving up my current life for trailing a rock and roll band around the world.

Oh I see

It is nice that you have these guys contact

The part of me asking you to ask them stuff was just me joking hahahaha. I know very well that there is no point in that
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Post by lipeguns Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:49 pm

Soulmonster wrote:

lipeguns wrote:

Soulmonster wrote:It will be Axl's 999th (he missed one show in 1986), Dizzy's 770th, Duff's 655th, Slash's 642nd, Richard's 572nd, Frank's 532nd and Melissa's 225th show

Here's to another 1000!! Very Happy


Good to know!

Axl's 998th because in 1988 he didn't sing at the second Irvine show. Razz



I haven't considered the June 9, 1988, show at Irvine Meadows as a GN'R show. GN'R was off the tour by then and as far as I know, the rest of the band only played a couple of songs. But this is a good example of the subjectivity of this.

Great find on that poster! I will look more into this later (about to board a plane now).


Hope you had a safe travel, Soulmonster!

That Irvine gig was the last opening for Iron Maiden. Later on that night Slash and Steven joined the chorus part in "Heaven Can Wait" at Maiden's set. So, howeverthless the Axl's absence and just a couple of songs played, I think that gig was a GN'R gig.


Blackstar wrote:

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2022.10.08 - Estadio San Marcos, Lima, Peru 1Gcorln
This mag belongs to Tim Troccoli.


Good find!

The listing in L.A. Weekly (March 13-20, 1986) doesn't mention GN'R though, so they probably didn't play eventually:

2022.10.08 - Estadio San Marcos, Lima, Peru 1986_043


I agree.

The issue of "No Shit" magazine that the ad appeared was published in March, 7th. Probably GN'R was replaced by The Mutts.

On the same mag has a list of the bands (the same of the ad):

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Another magazine, "Scratch", from March but probably before March 7h, don't list Imperiet also, but shows GN'R name:

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Post by Blackstar Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:16 am

Since we're at the early shows:

1. The case of the Lipstick Fixx/The Galaxy Stage on November 14, 1985 (included in the history section but not in the concert database):
https://www.a-4-d.com/t4937-05-june-december-1985-local-fame#18930
https://www.a-4-d.com/t4084-1985-11-22-l-a-weekly-l-a-dee-da-on-the-streets-mention-of-police-raid-at-show
It's unclear if the police raid took place before the band started playing or after, so maybe it should be added in the concert database.

2. I still think that there's enough evidence that there was a show on Feb. 1, 1986 at Timbers Ballroom (not at the Troubadour, like gnrontour says). See here for details:
https://www.a-4-d.com/t3130p60-xx-notes#15407
This show is not included either in the history section or in our concert database.

3. On the other hand, the Music Machine benefit show on March 23, 1986 (which I'd found an ad for in L.A. Weekly and therefore has been included in both our concert database and history section) was cancelled, according to Marc Canter:
https://www.a-4-d.com/t4942-06-january-december-1986-getting-signed#18945
https://www.a-4-d.com/t3853-1986-03-23-music-machine-los-angeles-ca-usa#
https://www.a-4-d.com/t3130p90-xx-notes#15865

4. The Starwood on Jan. 26, 1986, which most likely didn't happen (this show is not included in the history section anyway and there is mention of the likelihood of it not having happened in the concert thread).
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Post by ludurigan Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:07 am

oh fuck the "hard work" card again

now let me go back to medieval madras
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Post by Blackstar Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:42 am

Pictures posted by the band and Kat Benzova:

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