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Post by Soulmonster Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:40 am


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July 2, 2022
Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, London, England
Setlist:
01. It's So Easy
02. Mr. Brownstone
03. Chinese Democracy
04. Slither
Link Wray's Rumble intro
05. Welcome To The Jungle
06. Double Talkin' Jive
07. Estranged
08. Live And Let Die
09. Absurd
10. Civil War (with Voodoo Chile outro)
11. Wichita Lineman (Glen Campbell cover)
12. Patience
13. I Wanna Be Your Dog (The Stooges cover)
14. You're Crazy (Lies version)
Slash Guitar Solo (Albert King's Born Under A Bad Sign jam)
Alice Cooper's Only Women Bleed intro
15. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
16. Nightrain
Encore:
The Beatles' Blackbird intro
17. Sweet Child O' Mine (with Carrie Underwood)
18. Paradise City (with Carrie Underwood)

Date:
July 2, 2022.

Venue:
Tottenham Hotspur Stadium.

Location:
London England.

Line-up:
Axl Rose: Vocals and piano
Slash: Lead and rhythm guitar, and backing vocals
Richard Fortus: Rhythm and lead guitar, and backing vocals
Duff McKagan: Bass and backing vocals
Dizzy Reed: Piano and backing vocals
Frank Ferrer: Drums
Melissa Reese: Keyboard and backing vocals

Notes:
This show was originally scheduled for May 30, 2020. It was postponed to June 19, 2021 and then to July 2, 2022 due to the Covid-19 outbreak.

Posters:
(Artists: Timothy Lenoir, Pat Halloran)

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Post by Blackstar Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:18 pm

Show in progress. Axl said he was having vocal issues so he would change his approach to singing.
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Post by Blackstar Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:46 am

Legendary rock band Guns n Roses are late for their gig at Tottenham Stadium for the second night in a row and fans are fuming. Despite publicising a start time of 6.45pm, the band still weren't on stage at 8.15pm.

The delayed start time trumps the hour delay of last night (Friday July 1), when Guns n Roses came on stage at around 7.45pm. Frustrated fans said the crowd were getting bored with some complaining of the person next to them showing them wedding photos, people getting too drunk, and the crowd resorting to doing Mexican waves.

Fans called for a refund and complained that the late start would mean a late finish which many would have to miss as they rushed for their trains. Some noted that Friday night's concert had been five or six songs shorter than at previous gigs already.
https://www.mylondon.news/news/north-london-news/guns-n-roses-tottenham-stadium-24383796
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Post by Blackstar Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:48 am

Axl said during the show that he went to see a doctor yesterday and that he slept at the venue last night to be able to prepare for tonight's show. So the information in the Telegraph article
https://www.a-4-d.com/t7356-2022-07-01-tottenham-hotspur-stadium-london-england#28158
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Sweet Child O' Mine and Paradise City with Carrie Underwood




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Post by Blackstar Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:03 am

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Post by Blackstar Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:45 am

From Meegan's instagram (the first photo is by Carrie Underwood's photographer, the other two by Meegan)

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Photos by Del James

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Post by Soulmonster Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:31 am

I feel for Axl - I can imagine it must have upset him a lot. Still, sounds good although it takes some getting used to and on some songs the dynamics between low and high is lost. And people had a great time. Go Axl!!
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Post by ludurigan Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:55 am

wow i am just listening to nightrain

has axl FINALLY decided to use his low voice instead of that horrendous bullshit he's been doing for two fucking decades?

can miracles happen?

can I dream some more?

is izzy coming back?

will GNR ever be again?

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Post by ludurigan Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:05 am

Blackstar wrote:Nightrain


I AM SO PUMPED RIGHT NOW

THIS IS THE BEST AXL HAS SOUNDED IN TWO FUCKING DECADES. If it wasn't for the shitty, shitty drumming destroying the song (how shitty is this frank guy seriously?????) and for the shitty grooveless rick fortus bullshit this would be like A PERFECT 2022 NIGHTRAIN. Come on Axl now you just need to bring Izzy back and get a good drummer...
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Post by ludurigan Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:09 am

Soulmonster wrote:I feel for Axl - I can imagine it must have upset him a lot. Still, sounds good although it takes some getting used to and on some songs the dynamics between low and high is lost. And people had a great time. Go Axl!!

it took me a nanosecond to get used to the best low voice that has ever existed in the planet

(sorry leonard cohen, sorry barry white, but axl's low voice is miles above you guys)

seriously, i just listened to nightrain and axl voice's and approach and delivery sound absolutely fucking brilliant, I can't believe it took him TWENTY FUCKING YEARS to make this move

I hope this is a prelude to a GNR reunion
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Post by ludurigan Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:28 am

has axl sang any other song with his GOLDEN LOW VOICE other than nightrain?

I am going through sweeet child o mine and although it sounds a tad better than the usual he is still using his high voice

and that is so not-good that it makes the very professional, hard working, ultra-skilled and highly technical singer carry underwood sound bettter than him

now how much more can this frank guy destroy the songs? I am so glag that I don't usually listen to this "GNR" because this guy just fucking kills all the song with his crap drumminng, crap fills, crap changes, crap everything

it is utterly disgusting

the best axl has sounded in the entire song was when he introduced carry underwoood using that golden low voice

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wow

axl just did the very last WORD on sweet child o mine using his low voice

"MIIINE"

maybe this is a sign of things to come?

maybe for the next show he can do TWO WORDS with the low voice?

and keep adding words?

Very Happy

maybe in two years we will get the full song in LOW VOICE like we just got nightrain?

maybe he will fire frank?

and then get rid of ricky boy?

and then get a good drummer?

and then get izzy?

Am I repeating myself?

can I dream that one day GNR will be again?
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Post by Soulmonster Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:30 am

ludurigan wrote:I am so glag that I don't usually listen to this "GNR" because this guy just fucking kills all the song with his crap drumminng, crap fills, crap changes, crap everything

Me too, if this is the kind of tirade of negativity I'd have to read every time you did!
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Post by ludurigan Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:55 am

Soulmonster wrote:
ludurigan wrote:I am so glag that I don't usually listen to this "GNR" because this guy just fucking kills all the song with his crap drumminng, crap fills, crap changes, crap everything


Me too, if this is the kind of tirade of negativity I'd have to read every time you did!

sorry about that negativiity

look i have seen countless drummers playing guns n roses and 99% of them do a great job

Or at least an accceptable job -- by acceptable I mean that they "disappear" on the song, meaning that you listen to the song and you don't think about the drumming, you don't get distracted by it

some of the guys that play GNR over the years were actually just as good as steven or at least good enough that you don't worry to much or that j=yyou just get used to them

like matt

like fred coury from those shows in 1987

and like tommy clufetos from the "slash and friends" shows about 10 years ago, what a good drummer

seriously, any medium-skilled level drummer can play those songs properly

but axl has constantly chosen guys that just can't

brian is a huge drummer but he is not made to play GNR songs the same way slash is a great guitar player but he is not made to play samba

and this frank dude is the absolutely worst

you gotta respect the song

that is rule #1 oin the music business

if you are good enough -- like clufetos, like so many -- then you can change the song and add your own thing to it

you gotta be good to do that

and being good has nothing to do with "druming technique"

it's about knowing where to place stuff, about timing, about feel, groove etc

this frank dude has none of that

and to add insult to the injury, for whatever reason he seems to believe that he is better than the songs

but he is just not
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Post by Soulmonster Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:22 pm

ludurigan wrote:
Soulmonster wrote:

ludurigan wrote:I am so glag that I don't usually listen to this "GNR" because this guy just fucking kills all the song with his crap drumminng, crap fills, crap changes, crap everything



Me too, if this is the kind of tirade of negativity I'd have to read every time you did!


sorry about that negativiity

look i have seen countless drummers playing guns n roses and 99% of them do a great job

Or at least an accceptable job -- by acceptable I mean that they "disappear" on the song, meaning that you listen to the song and you don't think about the drumming, you don't get distracted by it

some of the guys that play GNR over the years were actually just as good as steven or at least good enough that you don't worry to much or that j=yyou just get used to them

like matt

like fred coury from those shows in 1987

and like tommy clufetos from the "slash and friends" shows about 10 years ago, what a good drummer

seriously, any medium-skilled level drummer can play those songs properly

but axl has constantly chosen guys that just can't

brian is a huge drummer but he is not made to play GNR songs the same way slash is a great guitar player but he is not made to play samba

and this frank dude is the absolutely worst

you gotta respect the song

that is rule #1 oin the music business

if you are good enough -- like clufetos, like so many -- then you can change the song and add your own thing to it

you gotta be good to do that

and being good has nothing to do with "druming technique"

it's about knowing where to place stuff, about timing, about feel, groove etc

this frank dude has none of that

and to add insult to the injury, for whatever reason he seems to believe that he is better than the songs

but he is just not

Look, I don't think Frank is great either, but I wouldn't rag on him for not being the best drummer in GN'R. I am sure he does the best he can. If anything, I'd criticize Axl for hiring him, but then I realize that other factors play into things like hat, like social skills, reliability, salaries, etc.
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Post by Soulmonster Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:06 pm

He really started struggling under Welcome to the Jungle - I don't think I have heard him have so much voice problems before. It must be terrible noticing your voice go, not being able to reach those high notes accurately and with any sustain, after only four songs into a set.
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Post by Soulmonster Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:26 pm

Here's what Axl says after Estranged, as far as I can tell:

"Okay, so as you can probably tell, I'm having a few issues [pointing to throat], but these shows are really important to us [?], I slept here last night to make sure...so I'll be switching the songs [?] vocally, I hope you don't mind. We would like to [?]".
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Soulmonster wrote:Here's what Axl says after Estranged, as far as I can tell:

"Okay, so as you can probably tell, I'm having a few issues [pointing to throat], but these shows are really important to us [?], I slept here last night to make sure...so I'll be switching the songs [?] vocally, I hope you don't mind. We would like to [?]".
In the end he says "We would like to keep going."

Up to You're Crazy he kept attempting to sing in the way he usually does and hit the high notes, but he couldn't and was switching to low voice.
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Post by Blackstar Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:16 pm

Soulmonster wrote:He really started struggling under Welcome to the Jungle - I don't think I have heard him have so much voice problems before. It must be terrible noticing your voice go, not being able to reach those high notes accurately and with any sustain, after only four songs into a set.
I didn't hear much difference on Jungle at this show compared to previous shows. He's been struggling with it on this tour. They even slowed it down (as well as the other songs in the beginning of the set) at a couple of shows, presumably to help Axl, but it sounded weird (that was probably part of the reason the show in Sweden wasn't received well) and didn't help anyway.

But on the second part of Estranged his voice really gave up.
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Post by ludurigan Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:00 am

Soulmonster wrote: Look, I don't think Frank is great either, but I wouldn't rag on him for not being the best drummer in GN'R. I am sure he does the best he can. If anything, I'd criticize Axl for hiring him, but then I realize that other factors play into things like hat, like social skills, reliability, salaries, etc.

Oh, you can rest assured that I put the blame 100% on Axl for hiring Frank, Richard and Melissa (and all the other "talented and harding working" musicians), for keeping them in HIS band and for preventing an actual GNR reunion

I also blame Axl for imploding GNR in the 90s, for not releasing any proper Guns n' Roses music in 30 years, for running a sad, disnheartening nostalgia circus for 30 years and for being the biggest wasted talent in the history of the music business

I don't think that there was ever any better singer (consistently up to 1991) and I mean that in every possible sense that the word "singer" has
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