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1992.12.13 - Autodromo, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

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Post by Soulmonster Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:47 pm

Date:
December 13, 1992.

Venue:
Autodromo.

Location:
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

Setlist:
01. Welcome to the Jungle
02. Mr. Brownstone
03. Live and Let Die
04. Attitude
05. Double Talkin' Jive
06. Civil War
07. Patience
08. Bad Obsession
09. November Rain
10. You Could Be Mine
11. Sweet Child O'Mine
12. Knockin' On Heaven's Door

Line-up:
Axl Rose (vocals), Gilby Clarke (rhythm guitarist), Slash (lead guitarist), Duff McKagan (bass), Dizzy Reed (keyboards) and Matt Sorum (drums).

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Post by Blackstar Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:05 am

1992.12.13 - Autodromo, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil 1992_148
Photo credit: Marcos Issa/OGlobo

From Guns N' Roses Live Era Photos on instagram:
NOTES #1 📑 Rio concert was really strange. The band was kind of off. Axl was running around the stage but didn't seem happy. But he was singing his ass out. The power of his voice was incredible. CREDITS ✍ @bruno_athayde1978.

NOTES #2 📑 A very 'nervous' show. Axl supposedly came to the Autodromo just five minutes before the show started and left right after the show ended. Axl didn't change his clothes during the show, he started the show with a white t-shirt and ended with the same. Slash, Gilby and Duff stayed around the drum kit during the show, just Axl was running around. CREDITS ✍ GNRontour.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIvVafwMWWU/


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Post by Blackstar Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:07 am

There's not much about this show in Craig Duswalt's book:
Next was the final show of this South American leg in beautiful Rio de Janeiro.
Ah, a nice show. No stress.
[Craig Duswalt, Welcome to My Jungle, BenBella Books, May 2014]
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Post by Soulmonster Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:55 am

Yes, exactly what I wanted to see when eating my lunch...
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Post by Blackstar Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:57 am

@Soulmonster wrote:Yes, exactly what I wanted to see when eating my lunch...
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Post by Blackstar Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:08 pm

The review in O Globo (Dec. 15, 1992) where the picture appeared:

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I'll try to extract the text and put it on auto translation later.
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Post by Blackstar Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:51 pm

Google translation of the review above (I don't have time to translate it properly right now, so some parts might not make much sense).
EDIT: I made some corrections and it's somewhat better now.
And Guns N' Roses went to the swamp

Dispersive and lame performance suggests it's time to put an end to Gunner idolatry

And Guns N' Roses sank into the mud. For a band that is supposed to be important, playing in a place like the swamp abandoning that is the Autôdromo de Jacarepaguá seems the end of the line.

And aside from the blind idolatry of Axl and company fanatics, the show presented by the band on Sunday left a lot to be desired.

The delay aside (the group took the stage at 11:15 pm, an hour and a half later than scheduled) because of problems in the sound system, the rest was unforgivable. Like the lack of cohesion in the performance. The show drags, is full of holes, doesn’t flow and doesn’t involve the audience.

So much so that at the end the band returned only for the usual encore - "Paradise city", one of the good moments - because no one was excited enough to want more, even by the late hour, almost at dawn.

Very different from the shows at the last Rock in Rio (a good one and an average one), which, although seemed like rehearsals for the world tour, had more energy. We even wonder if they play the same show in other countries. Does anyone complain there?

It can be said that the two best things of the night were the majestic full moon that emerged behind the mountains just when GNR took the stage and the flight of a helicopter, beautifully lit by the stage reflectors.

In addition, what we saw was a bureaucratic performance, from which it’s clear that the group knew how to do better at the beginning of their career. So much so that the new songs, except '"November rain", already an instant rock classic, went by unnoticed.

The show started well with “Welcome to the jungle" - everything to do with the place - and improved with “Mr. Brownstone", both from the Gunners' first and best album - the latter was interrupted because Axl "eagle eye" Rose found a Slash impersonator in the audience and the highlight of (?). Programmed friendliness.

hen Axl said those usual things like "it's good to be back" etc., and once again he took the opportunity to attack the press, something that is already part of the script of the band's concerts worldwide, and which he allegedly feeds with his fake “rebellious” attitudes.  As fake as the red-black shirt he wore at the end of the show and the Brazilian flag displayed during the song “Civil war”. Pua!

There are so many unnecessary speeches and stretches in some songs that in just over two hours of the show, about half the time is pure filler.

Everything went smoothly on stage for most of the performance, but around 0h40m, in the middle of "You could be mine" (until that point the song that excited the audience the most), Axl had his expected tantrum because he saw someone photographing the show or something like that - whatever, since he had another reason to throw the microphone, one of the many he throws from the stage - and left the stage cursing. What a joke.

This guy deserves a good spanking on the butt - which he showed to the audience in the first half of the show - to learn to respect the fans, especially the girls who go through hell to watch the guy's shows and run the risk of getting hurt .

In general, Guns have become a corporate rock band, with all the possible clichés of the genre: long and expendable solos (all  terrible, by the way, especially those by Slash), parts with piano, a female choir, shouting request from the audience via a luminous sign, in short, everything that causes retching in rockers with attitude.

It's better to follow the suggestion written on the shirt that Axl wore at the end, the one that bears the face of Christ and the words "Kill your idol". It's time to kill idolatry on Guns N 'Roses.

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Fan wore Axl Rose jacket, but the singer snubbed her

A fanatic for Axl Rose, and with banking support to finance so much passion, 15 year old Rio de Janeiro teenager Maria Geyer tried everything to get a meeting with the leader of Guns N' Roses. It didn't work, but it came close. Hosted at the Intercontinental Hotel - the same where the group stayed in Rio - with a car, driver and security at her disposal, Maria had an asset to reach the singer: a leather jacket that Axl lost during Rock in Rio II, in January 1990.

- It's the same jacket he wore in the "Paradise city" video - she assures, saying she paid US $ 2 thousand (Cr $ 25.4 million) for the clothes, "in a store".

Maria recruited two English-speaking friends, Danny and Carlos, to contact Axl. At the beginning, Brazilian security guards stated that if that jacket was really Axl's it would be the product of a robbery - since it was missing from the Guns dressing room in Maracanã. Danny and Carlos explained that their intention was only to return it to its owner. They provided a detailed description of it to prove that they were not lying: gray leather with the name Axl embroidered on the left, the skulls of the other band members on the right and the Guns N 'Roses logo on the back. A label on the lining gave the origin and the manufacturer: Creative Customs Product, Bloomfield, New Jersey.

Through a walk-talkie, security guards talked to Axl, who confirmed the description. But to Maria's disappointment, the singer snubbed them - her and the jacket. Furious, the girl threatened to commit suicide and destroy all the albums of the group: He is ungrateful, an imbecile - she was screaming in the hotel lobby.

After the initial fury, however, she went to the race track to watch the ex-idols.

*

Yesterday morning, the members of Guns N 'Roses - with the exception of Axl, who went directly from the race track to the airport by helicopter - sailed on a yacht pari Angra dos Reis. Around 4 am they left the Intercontinental hotel accompanied by 30 people and went to Marina da Glória. While Slash watched the sunrise accompanied by a beautiful blonde, drummer Matt Scrum exclaimed: "Fuck, fuck, fuck”.


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