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1986.08.28 - The Stone, San Francisco, USA

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Post by Soulmonster Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:31 pm

Date:
August 28, 1986

Venue:
The Stone

Location:
San Francisco, USA.

Setlist:
Unknown setlist.

Line-up:
Axl Rose (vocals), Izzy Stradlin (rhythm guitarist), Slash (lead guitarist), Duff McKagan (bass) and Steven Adler (drums).

1986.08.28 - The Stone, San Francisco, USA Rightarrow Next concert: 1986.01.18.
1986.08.28 - The Stone, San Francisco, USA Leftarrow Previous concert: 1986.01.04.


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Post by Soulmonster Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:48 pm

1986.08.28 - The Stone, San Francisco, USA Photo18

Photograph by Deborah Ostrov:
In what I'm sure was a well-meant gesture, Jetboy's lead singer announced my address over the PA system during this show. Perhaps he thought my plan to limit the after-show party to the several hundred people I actually knew was not a good one. In any event, Axl Rose showed up, dressed in a pair of fetching black leather chaps. Just black leather chaps. He stumbled into my bedroom (it was a two-room apartment, so the odds were 50/50), and passed out on a pile of records - records I had not especially planned to throw onto a bonfire. I never understood why people liked GnR.
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Post by puddledumpling Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:39 am

Soulmonster wrote:1986.08.28 - The Stone, San Francisco, USA Photo18

Photograph by Deborah Ostrov:
In what I'm sure was a well-meant gesture, Jetboy's lead singer announced my address over the PA system during this show. Perhaps he thought my plan to limit the after-show party to the several hundred people I actually knew was not a good one. In any event, Axl Rose showed up, dressed in a pair of fetching black leather chaps. Just black leather chaps. He stumbled into my bedroom (it was a two-room apartment, so the odds were 50/50), and passed out on a pile of records - records I had not especially planned to throw onto a bonfire. I never understood why people liked GnR.
I especially enjoyed this post.
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The quote is by Deborah Ostrov?
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Post by Soulmonster Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:48 am

Yes, it is.

This is sort of a mystery show. It apparently took place some time in 1986 at a club called The Stone (according to Ostrov) in San Francisco. I can't find any information on this venue, but there used to be a club called The Rock at Broadway street where Jetboy played all the time, so I am leaning towards concluding that Ostrov's memory is not all that. Still, even when searching for "The Rock" in combination with "Guns N' Roses" or "Jetboy" and 1986, I can't get any hits.

Another thing, according to two different interviews with Slash they also played a gig in San Francisco in 1985 with Jetboy -- which is not included in my database, or anyone's else. A real mystery date. Even Marc Canter doesn't mention this gig. Normally I'd write it off on Slash's notoriously bad memory, but the thing is that he adds details suggesting the gig really took place: they apparently wrote Paradise City while in the car back to Hollywood (which should place this gig right before October 10, 1985) and the car was driven by Vicky Hamilton.

So now I am searching for two gigs who are supposed to have taken place in San Francisco in 1985 and 1986, respectively, both with Jetboy.
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Post by Soulmonster Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:10 pm

Well, according to Setlists.fm this The Stone gig took place on August 28, 1986. Whether there was a gig at the same venue in 1985, whicch Slash recollects, or whether he is just confused, I don't know.
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Post by Soulmonster Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:30 pm

According to this article about Steven resurrecting Roadcrew in 1991, Steven met members of the Vain while playing at the Stone in "late 1986 or early 1987": https://tinyurl.com/ybvqlaq4

Davy Vain would comment: "I remember the gig because you [=Steven] and Duff hung out for our set and watched us, which was the start of the connection. When we were in L.A. wed always stop by and say hi, and I got to know Duff and Slash as well" [Hot Metal, December 1991].
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Post by Blackstar Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:13 pm

The San Francisco Examiner, Friday Aug. 22 1986:

1986.08.28 - The Stone, San Francisco, USA 1986_016
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Post by Soulmonster Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:54 pm

Blackstar wrote:The San Francisco Examiner, Friday Aug. 22 1986:

1986.08.28 - The Stone, San Francisco, USA 1986_016

Brilliant, this confirms the date.
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Post by Soulmonster Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:50 am

Euchre wrote:You can see the flyer for this show here :

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/guns-roses-1986-original-slash-470769158

Great, thanks!

Here it is in case the original source link gets broken:

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Post by Soulmonster Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:59 am

Davy Vain, singer of the band Vain, would talk about this show in 1991 when he had joined forced with Steven in their short-lived band Roadcrew:

The first time we met was in late '86/early '87. It was the first time Vain had played the Stone in San Francisco. We were supporting Guns N’ Roses, in fact. I remember the gig because Steven and Duff (McKagan) hung out for our set and watched us. It turned out that a good friend of mine, the super-roadie McBob and his brother Tom Mayhue, ended up working for Guns. We were always the derelict rock kids from this town called Santa Rosa and when McBob and Tom started working for Guns, that was the beginning of the connection. When we were in LA we'd always stop by and say hi, and I got to know Duff and Slash quite well.
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