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1985.11.22 - The Troubadour, LA, USA

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Post by Soulmonster Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:08 pm

Date:
November 22, 1985.

Venue:
The Troubadour.

Location:
Los Angeles, USA.

Setlist:
01. Reckless Life
02. Shadow of Your Love
03. Welcome to the Jungle
04. Jumpin' Jack Flash
05. Think About You
06. Move to the City
07. Don't Cry
08. Nice Boys
09. Rocket Queen
10. Back Off Bitch
11. Anything Goes
12. Paradise City
13. Whole Lotta Rosie
14. Indiana Ain't My Kinda Town
15. Heartbreak Hotel

Line-up:
Axl Rose (vocals), Izzy Stradlin (rhythm guitarist), Slash (lead guitarist), Duff McKagan (bass) and Steven Adler (drums).

Bootlegs:
None known.

Notes:
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1985.11.22 - The Troubadour, LA, USA Rightarrow Next concert: 1985.12.20.
1985.11.22 - The Troubadour, LA, USA Leftarrow Previous concert: 1985.10.31.


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Post by Blackstar Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:05 pm

Ad in L.A. Weekly, November 22, 1985:

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Post by lipeguns Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:48 pm

Soulmonster wrote:

Setlist:
01. Reckless Life
02. Shadow of Your Love
03. Welcome to the Jungle
04. Jumpin' Jack Flash
05. Think About You
06. Move to the City
07. Don't Cry
08. Nice Boys
09. Rocket Queen
10. Back Off Bitch
11. Anything Goes
12. Paradise City
13. Whole Lotta Rosie
14. Heartbreak Hotel


Despite what was written on the setlist paper, after "Whole Lotta Rosie" the band started to play "Mama Kin" but stooped because technical dificulties with the Steven's bass drum pedal. So was improvised a seven minutes song called "Indiana Ain't My Kind Of Town" (probably played only this once) and then the band finishes the show with "Heartbreak Hotel".

Before the release of "Reckless Road" book (2007) with some audio snippets fron this show, the recording of "Indiana..." from it was surfacing since early 2000's, but mistakenly credited to Hollywood Rose.

The flag GN'R logo designed by Slash costed US$ 250 and debut on this Troubadour gig, the first GN'R sold out!

Opening acts: Feline, Kix.
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Post by ludurigan Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:11 pm

great info!!
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Post by Soulmonster Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:46 pm

lipeguns wrote:

Soulmonster wrote:

Setlist:
01. Reckless Life
02. Shadow of Your Love
03. Welcome to the Jungle
04. Jumpin' Jack Flash
05. Think About You
06. Move to the City
07. Don't Cry
08. Nice Boys
09. Rocket Queen
10. Back Off Bitch
11. Anything Goes
12. Paradise City
13. Whole Lotta Rosie
14. Heartbreak Hotel




Despite what was written on the setlist paper, after "Whole Lotta Rosie" the band started to play "Mama Kin" but stooped because technical dificulties with the Steven's bass drum pedal. So was improvised a seven minutes song called "Indiana Ain't My Kind Of Town" (probably played only this once) and then the band finishes the show with "Heartbreak Hotel".

Before the release of "Reckless Road" book (2007) with some audio snippets fron this show, the recording of "Indiana..." from it was surfacing since early 2000's, but mistakenly credited to Hollywood Rose.

The flag GN'R logo designed by Slash costed US$ 250 and debut on this Troubadour gig, the first GN'R sold out!

Opening acts: Feline, Kix.


Thank you!

I knew they played this song somewhere but wasn't sure where. I see that setlist.fm has been updated with this information, too.

May I ask how you know so much detail about this show?

And OP updated.
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Post by Blackstar Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:28 pm

Marc Canter has talked about it:

This was the only gig they played it. Nov 22, 1985 Troubadour their first sold out gig and it was the first time we put a full page in Bam magazine to promote the gig. Because Steven broke his peddle is why the band started playing the song. They were just fooling around to kill some time while someone was trying to fix the Bass drum. As far as I know the song was never finished and what they played was most likely improvised. Still it was very cool that they did it. It almost sounds like a cover song.
mygnrforum, September 5, 2012

https://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/192418-indiana-aint-my-kinda-town/?do=findComment&comment=3202209

I recorded it at the Troubadour Nov 22, 1985 it was their first sold out gig. We took out a full page ad in Bam magazine for that gig and it paid off. Steven had some problems with his bass drum peddle and there was some down time during the gig because of it. I think Izzy started strumming the song and then the band just went for it. I didn't even know the song existed until then. I thought that they just sort of made it up on the spot. Maybe it was something that Izzy and Axl once played around with but never finished it?
mygnrforum, December 13, 2013

https://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/204421-indiana-aint-my-kind-of-town/?do=findComment&comment=3619113
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Post by Soulmonster Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:29 pm

According to setlist.fm, it was a Hollywood Rose song.
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Post by ludurigan Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:45 am

Soulmonster wrote:According to setlist.fm, it was a Hollywood Rose song.

i wouldn't trust setlist.fm for older stuff. Anyone can register and post anything on that site, right?
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Post by Soulmonster Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:09 am

ludurigan wrote:
Soulmonster wrote:According to setlist.fm, it was a Hollywood Rose song.


i wouldn't trust setlist.fm for older stuff. Anyone can register and post anything on that site, right?

Yeah, I know, and I have found lots of errors in it. So you got to handle it with care.
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Post by lipeguns Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:42 pm

Soulmonster wrote:
lipeguns wrote:

Despite what was written on the setlist paper, after "Whole Lotta Rosie" the band started to play "Mama Kin" but stooped because technical dificulties with the Steven's bass drum pedal. So was improvised a seven minutes song called "Indiana Ain't My Kind Of Town" (probably played only this once) and then the band finishes the show with "Heartbreak Hotel".

Before the release of "Reckless Road" book (2007) with some audio snippets fron this show, the recording of "Indiana..." from it was surfacing since early 2000's, but mistakenly credited to Hollywood Rose.

The flag GN'R logo designed by Slash costed US$ 250 and debut on this Troubadour gig, the first GN'R sold out!

Opening acts: Feline, Kix.



Thank you!

I knew they played this song somewhere but wasn't sure where. I see that setlist.fm has been updated with this information, too.

May I ask how you know so much detail about this show?

And OP updated.

My pleasure!

The informations about the show I taken from Reckless Road book and about the song running time from the audio recording of it.


Soulmonster wrote:
ludurigan wrote:

Soulmonster wrote:According to setlist.fm, it was a Hollywood Rose song.



i wouldn't trust setlist.fm for older stuff. Anyone can register and post anything on that site, right?


Yeah, I know, and I have found lots of errors in it. So you got to handle it with care.

A lot of care! "They" put some '91 setlists from gigs with no info at gnrontour.com also adding the exact "note" written by John M. Ha! I really think they just invented those setlists!
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