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Post by Soulmonster Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:45 pm

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Post by Blackstar Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:42 pm

Interesting development. I wonder what he's up to.
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Post by ludurigan Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:21 am

He seems to be up to trying to convince people that he is the "PRIMARY SONGWRITER IN GUNS N' ROSES"

This is a new low for W. Axl Rose
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Post by ludurigan Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:25 am

"Stay up to date with the latest news and turn up the volume, feel the Axl Rose vibe"

Do you guys reckon that AI wrote this?

at least this is not offensive, just hysterically silly
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Post by Blackstar Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:29 am

The site has been launched and is operated by Live Nation :

https://www.officialaxlrose.com/privacy-policy

And it's been designed by this marketing company:

https://theskylineagency.com/

There are also links to an official Instagram account (Axl has actually had it since 2012, but never used it) as well as to a TikTok account (I guess that one was created recently, probably by the same company that set up the website).

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Regarding the “you gotta learn to live and run, or you’ll die trying” quote:

It looks like that's just a fake quote taken from this scam book related website/app:

https://www.bookey.app/quote-author/axl-rose

The quotes and everything else on that page is obviously AI generated (there are also similar fake quote pages for Slash and Duff on the same website).

It seems that whoever from Live Nation or that Skyline Agency company is responsible for the text content on the Axl website doesn't know much about Axl/GN'R and didn't do a proper research, but just googled and lifted a quote from one of the sites they came across.

So it doesn't seem Axl has been involved in the creation of the content. Probably the site is still under development.
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Post by ludurigan Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:52 am

Blackstar wrote:The site has been launched and is operated by Live Nation :

https://www.officialaxlrose.com/privacy-policy

And it's been designed by this marketing company:

https://theskylineagency.com/

There are also links to an official Instagram account (Axl has actually had it since 2012, but never used it) as well as to a TikTok account (I guess that one was created recently, probably by the same company that set up the website).

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Regarding the “you gotta learn to live and run, or you’ll die trying” quote:

It looks like that's just a fake quote taken from this scam book related website/app:

https://www.bookey.app/quote-author/axl-rose

The quotes and everything else on that page is obviously AI generated (there are also similar fake quote pages for Slash and Duff on the same website).

It seems that whoever from Live Nation or that Skyline Agency company is responsible for the text content on the Axl website doesn't know much about Axl/GN'R and didn't do a proper research, but just googled and lifted a quote from one of the sites they came across.

So it doesn't seem Axl has been involved in the creation of the content. Probably the site is still under development.

You are amazing. There is more proper info on your message than on the entire W. Axl Rose website. Thank you!
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Post by Blackstar Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:11 am

ludurigan wrote:
You are amazing. There is more proper info on your message than on the entire W. Axl Rose website. Thank you!
A lot of the info comes from the related discussion on mygnr Smile
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Post by ludurigan Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:18 am

Ha! I thought you had done all this research in like 5 minutes! Love it anyway! Very Happy
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Post by Soulmonster Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:40 am

ludurigan wrote:He seems to be up to trying to convince people that he is the "PRIMARY SONGWRITER IN GUNS N' ROSES"

This is a new low for W. Axl Rose

I think if you look across all albums, including Chinese Democracy, and do the calculations, you will find that he is technically the primary songwriter.
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Post by ludurigan Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:17 am

Soulmonster wrote:
ludurigan wrote:He seems to be up to trying to convince people that he is the "PRIMARY SONGWRITER IN GUNS N' ROSES"

This is a new low for W. Axl Rose


I think if you look across all albums, including Chinese Democracy, and do the calculations, you will find that he is technically the primary songwriter.

I think this is not accurate.

I am only considering Appetite, Lies and Illusions.

I am not familiar with CD songwriting credits and -- as you probably know -- I don't think that is a GN'R album. I also don't think that anything released after CD (Hardskool , etc) is "Guns n' Roses"

There are three main songwriters in Guns n' Roses: Axl, Izzy and Slash. And there is Duff who also writes -- I believe he is the one songwriter in the band that can be called a "secondary" songwriter.

I don't think that it is possible to say that there is (just) one "primary songwriter" in the band. Specially not Axl. Why? because Axl rarely writes music (by music I mean everything that is played on the instruments). He mostly writes lyrics and vocal melodies. And he is not the only one who does that. Several lyrics and vocal melodies in the band were written by Izzy (mostly) and Duff.

By all accounts Axl hasn't written any "music" in Guns n' Roses except for his well known songs -- November Rain, Estranged, Breakdown, My World... maybe a few more? I believe he wrote the music for One in a Million, right? And at least a part of (maybe the intro?) for Dead Horse? What else?

By all accounts, the "music" for every other song was NOT written by Axl. It was mostly written by Izzy and Slash -- and also Duff

It is very possible -- I would say VERY LIKELY -- that Axl helped with the "music" in each and every song in the Guns n' Roses catalog. There is a well known example in November Rain where he asked Matt Sorum to do a particular drum fill through the entire song etc. I have no evidence about that but I would bet that Axl did that for each and every song in the Guns n' Roses catalog.

But it is very possible -- I would also say VERY LIKELY -- that all the other three songwriters also did the EXACT SAME THING. This is what songwriters do in bands

But helping here and there is not being "the primary songwriter". There are several songs where Axl, by all accounts, had little or no hand in writing -- even for lyrics and vocal melodies.

So, yeah, I don't think that is accurate

Guns n' Roses is (was?) not the type of band that has a "primary songwriter". Other bands have this. Not GN'R;

Andy McCoy was the primary songwriter in Hanoi Rocks

Sting was the primary songwriter in The Police

Dee Dee Ramone was the primary songwriter in the Ramones

Phil Lynott was the primary songwriter in Thin Lizzy

Axl Rose was never the primary songwriter in Guns n' Roses. He was one of three
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Post by Soulmonster Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:20 am

ludurigan wrote:
Soulmonster wrote:

ludurigan wrote:He seems to be up to trying to convince people that he is the "PRIMARY SONGWRITER IN GUNS N' ROSES"

This is a new low for W. Axl Rose



I think if you look across all albums, including Chinese Democracy, and do the calculations, you will find that he is technically the primary songwriter.


I think this is not accurate.

I am only considering Appetite, Lies and Illusions

I stopped reading already here because obviously we are talking about different things. I am talking about the music released by the band Guns N' Roses, you are talking about the albums by that band that you like.
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Post by ludurigan Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:05 am

Soulmonster wrote:
ludurigan wrote:

Soulmonster wrote:


ludurigan wrote:He seems to be up to trying to convince people that he is the "PRIMARY SONGWRITER IN GUNS N' ROSES"

This is a new low for W. Axl Rose




I think if you look across all albums, including Chinese Democracy, and do the calculations, you will find that he is technically the primary songwriter.



I think this is not accurate.

I am only considering Appetite, Lies and Illusions


I stopped reading already here because obviously we are talking about different things. I am talking about the music released by the band Guns N' Roses, you are talking about the albums by that band that you like.

Ha! Come on!

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