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Post by Soulmonster Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:17 pm

The band has now announced dates for rescheduled shows to happen in 2021. See the overview in the right side panel.

Keep in mind that all of these shows, especially those still remaining for 2020, are highly uncertain due to the pandemic situation.
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Post by Blackstar Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:42 pm

The band has just announced show dates in Australia and New Zealand for November 2021.
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Post by Soulmonster Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:27 am

@Blackstar wrote:The band has just announced show dates in Australia and New Zealand for November 2021.

I will update the list later.

Is it now clear there won't be any shows before the Oceania tour, or might there still be a European tour in the summer?
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Post by Blackstar Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:37 am

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@Blackstar wrote:The band has just announced show dates in Australia and New Zealand for November 2021.
I will update the list later.

Is it now clear there won't be any shows before the Oceania tour, or might there still be a European tour in the summer?
I have updated the list Smile

The European and US tours don't seem likely to happen, except maybe for the Swedish festival (?)
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Post by Soulmonster Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:12 pm

Well, I'm actually a bit excited about GN'R touring again. I am not saying it will be any different from before, I just am more happy with the band out there touring than the band doing nothing. Will there be new songs? New riots? New biting of guards' thighs? New band members? New covers? New acoustic shows at smaller venues? New paparazzis' getting knocked down?
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Post by Soulmonster Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:22 pm

Not much there that suggest a forward-thinking tour. Only Axl, Slash and Duff is shown to the music of Nightrain. Still catering to the nostalgia crowd. Ideally I would have liked the entire band presented and something that indicated new music in the future.
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Post by Soulmonster Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:31 pm

Just a bit over a month to go now. I can't help getting a bit excited. At the very least I expect the band to dust off some songs they haven't played in a while; if there is a god they will play Hard School.
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Post by anchel Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:50 pm

Hoping for Hard School in this new leg!!
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Post by Blackstar Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:31 pm

@anchel wrote:Hoping for Hard School in this new leg!!
I hope so, too. I don't expect them to play it at the first shows of the leg, but somewhere along the leg.

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Post by Blackstar Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:03 pm

The dates in Mexico have been postponed

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Post by Soulmonster Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:34 am

And with the likely cancellation/postponement of the Australian/New Zealand tour in November it means there are seven more shows in 2021.
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Post by Blackstar Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:14 pm

The shows in Australia/New Zealand have been officially postponed and rescheduled for November/December 2002.

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Post by ludurigan Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:15 am

hope bigger means izzy and a good drummer

yeah i am a broken record
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Post by Soulmonster Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:08 am

@ludurigan wrote:hope bigger means izzy and a good drummer

yeah i am a broken record

Oh, Josh is never coming back Sad

Seriously though, we can always hope for an Izzy cameo at some stage. Maybe in 2022.
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Post by ludurigan Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:32 am

A cameo would be nice but it would also be meaningless because 1) they would probably play old songs that they already have played with Izzy in the past and 2) izzy's guitar would probably be buried by the Axl employee's guitar (like it was by Dave Kushner's guitar when he joined VR)

The whole point of having Izzy & a good drummer and to get rid of the Axl employees is for them to become a great band again, meaning a band that can write and record great, exciting songs and that can play them live properly. The guitar interplay of Slash and Izzy is a key element of that magic just as much as Izzy's capacity to turn Axl and Slash's ideas into great songs and Izzy's ability to play music live in a pulsing, groovy, rocking way. You also need a good drummer for all of that.

And I didn't even mention Slash's and Axl's ability to add "muscle" and "drama" to Izzy's sometimes too-mellow and too-simple songs and turn them into epic masterpieces
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Post by Soulmonster Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:45 am

@ludurigan wrote:A cameo would be nice but it would also be meaningless because 1) they would probably play old songs that they already have played with Izzy in the past and 2) izzy's guitar would probably be buried by the Axl employee's guitar (like it was by Dave Kushner's guitar when he joined VR)

The whole point of having Izzy & a good drummer and to get rid of the Axl employees is for them to become a great band again, meaning a band that can write and record great, exciting songs and that can play them live properly. The guitar interplay of Slash and Izzy is a key element of that magic just as much as Izzy's capacity to turn Axl and Slash's ideas into great songs and Izzy's ability to play music live in a pulsing, groovy, rocking way. You also need a good drummer for all of that.

And I didn't even mention Slash's and Axl's ability to add "muscle" and "drama" to Izzy's sometimes too-mellow and too-simple songs and turn them into epic masterpieces

I don't think the band will ever go back to the dynamics of how they wrote songs with Izzy back in the 80s, and if they did, I am not sure the results would necessarily be as good as back then. You can't recreate magic, it wasn't just the people, it was also the time and context of their lives. So maybe it don't happen, so you don't get so disappointed? Besides, in my opinion GN'R has demonstrated they can make great music without Izzy, so I am fine.
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Post by ludurigan Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:19 am

@Soulmonster wrote:I don't think the band will ever go back to the dynamics of how they wrote songs with Izzy back in the 80s, and if they did, I am not sure the results would necessarily be as good as back then. You can't recreate magic, it wasn't just the people, it was also the time and context of their lives. So maybe it don't happen, so you don't get so disappointed? Besides, in my opinion GN'R has demonstrated they can make great music without Izzy, so I am fine.

I am happy for you man. I somehow wish I was in your position. I wish I could enjoy their music.

I see your point about "you can't recreate magic" and I agree with almost all of it.

I agree specially that they will never make songs like the ones they did in the past and they will never play them and record them with the same passion, ferocity, intensity etc for all the reasons you mentioned.

It is impossible.

But there is so much room and time for good, great music to be created.

Here we have three guys who are INCREDIBLY TALENTED as songwriters and performers -- Axl, Izzy and Slash -- and these guys are able to bring the best in each other.

To this day I haven't listened to one bad song where the three of them collaborated.

Not one.

And the magic happens exactly when they collaborate to create music, because what happens is that, somehow, the sum of their efforts is (much, much) greater than its parts.

When they collaborate creatively, they reach what can be described as "full potential". They complement each other and their music reach heights that none of them is able to reach on their own...

And good music is life, man!

It is powerful, it moves people, it heals.

It makes the world better...
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