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2006.12.06 - Pengrowth Saddledome, Calgary, Canada

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Post by Soulmonster Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:58 pm


December 6, 2006 - Pengrowth Saddledome, Calgary, Canada
Setlist:
01. Welcome to the Jungle
02. It's So Easy
03. Mr. Brownstone
04. Live and Let Die
05. Better
Robin's guitar solo
06. Sweet Child O' Mine
07. Knockin' on Heaven's Door
08. You Could Be Mine
Dizzy's piano solo ("Angie")
09. Street of Dreams
10. Down on the Farm
Richard's guitar solo
Richard & Robin guitar duet (Beautiful)
11. Out Ta Get Me
Axl's piano solo
12. November Rain
13. Liquor & Whores (w/ Bubbles)
14. Used to Love Her
15. My Michelle
16. Patience
17. Nightrain
Encore:
18. Chinese Democracy
19. Madagascar
20. Paradise City

Date:
2006.12.06.

Venue:
Pengrowth Saddledome.

Location:
Calgary, AB, Canada.

Line-up:
Axl Rose: Vocals and piano
Richard Fortus: Rhythm guitarist
Bumblefoot: Lead guitarist
Robin Finck: Lead guitarist
Tommy Stinson: Bass
Frank Ferrer: Drums
Dizzy Reed: Keyboards
Chris Pitman: Keyboards.
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Post by Blackstar Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:07 am

Preview in Calgary Herald, December 2, 2006:

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Appetite for AXL

Guns N’ Roses frontman continues to fascinate fans, even without any new music

HEATH McCOY
Calgary Herald


The last definitive date was November 21. That was the day the eternally promised Guns N’ Roses album Chinese Democracy was supposed to hit stores.

But absolutely nobody was shocked when the disc was nowhere to be found. In fact, it was laughably predictable — just another spitball fired from the belligerently kooky world of Axl Rose.

If anything, the G N’ R frontman’s camp seemed to mock the promise in a press release for the current Chinese Democracy tour, which stated “there are 13 Tuesdays between now and the end of the year.” In other words, the album may appear on one of those release dates. Or, it may not.

Since then an off-the-record source from Universal Music told one journalist that the album’s release would be delayed until at least February 2007. Later the record company denied any such statement was made.

In truth, it will be infinitely more shocking if and when the record actually arrives. Sure, Rose has been threatening to release his masterpiece (or is it his albatross?) — now $13 million and at least in a decade in the making — since 1999. But, if you haven’t clued in already, here’s the bottom line: Chinese Democracy will come out when Rose is damn good and ready. Will he ever be ready? One gets the sense not even he knows for sure.

It speaks to the enduring appeal of Guns N’ Roses that fans and the music press alike still care as much as they do. Despite reports of poor ticket sales in some centres, the Chinese Democracy tour — which hits Calgary for a sold-out Saddledome gig on Wednesday — remains the talk of the rock world.

That’s a powerful bit of buzz for a band whose only original member is the singer, hasn't released an album of new material in 15 years, and is touring in support of a nonexistent album.

The air of mystery and elusiveness surrounding Chinese Democracy may be a big part of Guns N’ Roses continued draw. There’s an argument to be made that this near mythical platter has become the most eagerly anticipated album of all time. Fans are hungry for the record and Rose has starved them, continually teasing them with bogus release dates, creating a feeding frenzy of the curious.

It has lead to all sorts of speculation into the mental state of Rose, his spending habits and his plastic surgery choices.

But rocker Sebastian Bach, who has been opening up for Guns N’ Roses, swears the singer is at the top of his game, and he defends Rose’s actions.

"Listen, the guy hasn't lost his mind," Bach told a reporter recently. “(Rose) is trying to create a record that lives up to Appetite For Destruction, one of file best albums of all time, and that’s taken a long time... He doesn’t explain that to me because he doesn’t need to. It’s his album and his art.”

The mythology and anticipation that has built up around Guns N’ Roses wouldn’t exist if not for the band’s enormous impact when they exploded onto the scene in the late ’80s with Appetite For Destruction. At a time when the slick MTV-saturated landscape was dominated by the pious, pure-hearted likes of U2 and the tame, glossy chick metal of Def Leppard and Bon Jovi, GN’R brought a genuine, much-needed sense of danger back to the rock world.

Appetite was one of the decade’s best albums. A raw slab of blues-based hard rock meets punk fury, it was vicious and nihilistic on the surface, but desperately romantic at heart. They followed it up with a handful of uneven albums that contained enough standouts to maintain momentum.

Meanwhile, their increasingly chaotic ways both internally and in public kept fans transfixed. Who would leave the band next? Who would wind up in jail? Where would they provoke the next riot? Who would OD?

And then, around 1994 they disappeared, retreating into the studio to begin recording their first album of original material since the dual Use Your Illusion discs of 1991.

That album, eventually entitled Chinese Democracy, has yet to see the light of day. In the process of recording it, perfectionist Axl has managed to fire or drive away all the original band members, including his key creative foil, guitarist Slash. He has since replaced them with a revolving door of musicians, including at one point a masked axe-slinger who wore a bucket of KFC on his head, named, appropriately enough, Buckethead.

All the while, the singer continued to work and rework Chinese Democracy.

Perhaps the only comparable scenario is to Smile, the Beach Boys’ followup to Pet Sounds. Brian Wilson began recording that album in 1966 and had a mental breakdown in the process, finally shelving the thing until 2004. But by then, the public had long since given up on the record.

Other albums had been hotly awaited and way too long in the making — the followups to Michael Jackson’s Thriller and Nine Inch Nails’ The Downward Spiral, for example. But Jackson and NIN’s Trent
Reznor made fans wait five years while they tinkered — not 15.

It’s interesting to consider that in this time, six albums of new material have been released under the name Tupac Shakur since the hip-hop hero’s death a decade ago.

In a 1999 issue of Spin magazine, rock writer Marc Spitz suggested that “the longer (Axl) stays away, the larger his legend grows.” But now, the reclusive wildman is back in the public eye. He’s been seen living it up at trendy hotspots, even getting in a fight with Tommy Hilfiger in a New York City nightclub back in May. He was also a presenter at this year’s MTV Music Awards.

And he’s been on a full-fledged world tour since May, playing to mixed reviews. Still, the buzz has yet to wane.

Unlike in 2002 when a tour was aborted after Axl failed to appear for a couple of shows, sparking a riot in Vancouver, the singer has actually gone through with his current sojourn. For the most part anyhow. There was that cancelled show in Portland last month, where Axl pulled the plug when told he wasn’t allowed to drink alcohol onstage.

In a mock review written for Chinese Democracy in May by Spin magazine’s Chuck Klosterman, the writer stated that after all this buildup there’s only one way for Chinese Democracy “to avoid utter and absolute failure. It needs to be the greatest rock album ever made.”

Pretending to have heard the disc, Klosterman riffs: “Had Axl released his album after a silence of, say, 11 years and two months (at a cost of, say, $11.5 million), Chinese Democracy would be an undeniable masterpiece, but considering the circumstances, some of this work seems shoddy.”

Will Klosterman’s satirical prediction come true? Can Axl Rose possibly live up not only to his own monumental reputation, but also the impossible expectations he’s created for this album? And if he doesn’t, will his legend finally be deflated?

Only time will tell. Or, if Axl keeps going back to the drawing board, maybe it won’t.

Guns N’ Roses performs Wednesday at the Pengrowth Saddledome. The concert is sold out.
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Post by Blackstar Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:15 am

Review in Calgary Herald, December 8, 2006:
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Bloom’s off Axl, replacement Roses

REVIEW
Guns N’ Roses performed a sold out show Wednesday at the Pengrowth Saddledome. Attendance 14,500.


HEATH McCOY
Calgary Herald


Face it folks, no matter what your ticket stub says — no matter what Axl Rose says — Wednesday night’s Guns N’ Roses gig at the Saddledome was not a Guns N’ Roses show. Not really.

The band that scorched the earth in the late ’80s was not the Axl show. It was a band, and a couple of those former Gunners (Slash and Izzy anybody?) were as important to the venomous chemistry as Axl himself.  Wednesday night’s show,  then, was a  performance by the new Axl Rose Band. Period. No matter how many Appetite For Destruction songs they played. And G N’R is missed — big time. This is not meant as a complete write-off of the Axl Band because their attack was undeniable. Their spit was legit, even if their show was far too disjointed.

Rose and his seven-piece backing group came out swinging with the lethal licks of Welcome To The Jungle. Axl’s bright orange hair was corn-rowed and pulled back angrily tight in a pony tail. Sporting a goatee and shades, dressed in a shiny leathery shirt and blue jeans, looking a fair bit thicker than he used to, Rose did his trademark snake dance and sprinted around the stage like a teen throwing a tantrum.

Nipping at Jungle’s heels was the malicious, punk-fired It’s So Easy, followed by the junkie’s mule-kick of Mr. Brownstone. The new band more than duplicated the seething acid of both, not to mention the blunt force. If anything, it was Rose who was a weak link, though the problem seemed more about sound rather than actual vocals.

You could hear Rose hit the notes with that banshee’s wail of his — but too often he was being drowned out in the din. Even his between-song patter was hard to make out at certain points.

The few new tunes played off the eternally promised, but yet to be released album Chinese Democracy did represent lulls in the show as far as crowd energy went. This doesn’t necessarily speak to the quality of the material, because much of it showed promise. It’s next to impossible to debut an unheard song in front of 14,500 fans rabid for the classics. If Axl wanted this stuff to make an impact, he should have released it long ago, giving it the chance to grow on listeners.

Then there was the extended solos given to band members, keyboardist Dizzy Reed and the guitarists Bumblefoot, Richard Fortus and Robin Finck, who looked like one of the Children of the Corn all growed up. These guys were all remarkable musicians, no question — but nobody was here to hear soloing virtuosos they didn’t recognize. They came to hear Guns N’ Roses and, as far as that goes, they only got a piece of the puzzle.

That’s a shame because this show had so much going for it.

Sure, the Axl Band didn’t take the stage until just before midnight. Good on ’em, really. Why should a hard rock band be expected to wrap it up before 11 p.m? This is Axl Rose not some teeny bopper group whose fans have a curfew. Not some oldie goldie whose baby boomer devotees tucker out early.

Clearly, Rose envisioned a sleazy-fun, old-school hard rock show and it was delivered as such, right down to the opening acts, which included a bit of T&A from the Suicide Girls burlesque show and the industrial proto-grunge of Helmet (whose set was underwhelming). Then there was the muscular hard rock bluster of ex-Skid Row singer Sebastian Bach.

Bach, or Baz as he’s known to his fans, has become the ultimate G N’R booster on this tour, which has revived his career. Remember Dennis Hopper insanely preaching about Kurtz (Marlon Brando) in Apocalypse Now? That’s Baz’s relationship with Axl Rose these days.

Fortunately, he channeled that manic energy into a set that shook the ’Dome. Critics of late have been slagging the guy as a hair metal reject who doesn’t belong on a high-profile tour, but Bach fit this bill perfectly, whipping fans into a froth with powerful raw pipes and solid showmanship.

Don’t get me wrong, the main event, which went on for more than two hours, had many highlights.

The menacing funk of Rocket Queen; the beautifully rendered power ballad November Rain; a furious duet with Baz on My Michelle; the rootsy nastiness of Used To Love Her — these were awesome moments. Then there was the appearance of that bespectacled, lovable misfit Bubbles from TV’s Trailer Park Boys, who joined Axl for a duet on the silly, but soulful country-flavoured cut Liquor and Whores off the Trailer Park Boys movie soundtrack. Truly cool.

Yes, there were plenty of standouts. But if Rose is going to throw this grand a rock show — a show that has fans hanging around the arena for more than six hours, he’s got to work many a kink out of his own set And his own ego.

Oh, and actually releasing Chinese Democracy might help matters greatly.
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