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2001.12.29 - The Joint, Hard Rock Hotel, Las Vegas, USA

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Post by Soulmonster Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:18 pm

Date:
December 29, 2001.

Venue:
The Joint, Hard Rock Hotel.

Location:
Las Vegas, NV, USA.

Setlist:
01. Welcome to the Jungle
02. It's So Easy
03. Mr. Brownstone
04. Live and Let Die
05. Oh My God
06. Think About You
07. You Could Be Mine
08. Sweet Child O'Mine
09. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
10. Out Ta Get Me
11. Madagascar
12. Rocket Queen
13. November Rain
14. Chinese Democracy
15. Street of Dreams
16. Patience
17. Silkworms
18. My Michelle
19. Paradise City

Line-up:
Axl Rose (vocals), Paul Tobias (rhythm guitarist), Buckethead (lead guitarist), Robin Finck (lead guitarist), Tommy Stinson (bass), Dizzy Reed (keyboards), Chris Pitman (keyboards) and Brain (drums).

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Post by Blackstar Tue May 05, 2020 1:13 am

Preview in Las Vegas Weekly, December 30, 2001 (it was for the New Year's Eve show, but it goes for both shows):
The grand return of G N' R--again

The new n' improved Axl doesn't suck as much as you might think

By Richard Fenkel

We can see it already, crowds pack into the warehouse-like Joint, bumping and pushing one another, waiting grumpily in the booze line for a half-hour, just trying to find a spot to wedge themselves in to watch the concert event of the new year.

About two or three hours into this song and dance, out steps the notorious Axl Rose--lead singer for G N' R. And also the social hermit who's infamous for his chronic lateness.

Hey, Vegas, welcome to the Joint, time for n' games.

If you're still looking for something to do on New Year's Eve, you could possibly still catch one of the hardest rock bands to come out of the '80s. The legendary Sunset Strippers--equal parts heavy and hair metal--Guns N' Roses are gonna be back in Vegas.

Last New Year's Eve, Guns N' Roses put on, for one night only at the House of Blues, probably the most talked-about comeback of 2001--a comeback who's hype fizzled out by mid-January, and by summer we didn't even care any more.

First and foremost, please remove any preconceived notions that Axl's new band sucks. The new group elicits thoughts of pure, unadulterated talent. It won't be difficult sitting through any of the two upcoming shows. It's an opportunity to listen and watch a former recluse and precarious frontman reclaim--or attempt to reclaim--his previous rock 'n' roll glory.

Axl is a new man. I'm not referring to him as being "born again" in a biblical sense, thank God. Simply put, I'm referring to his demeanor and interaction with fans. In the past, Axl was infamous for his tumultuous outbursts--hey, if someone threw a bottle at you, you'd be pissed off, too. Needless to say, he's older and wiser now. The days of throwing temper tantrums are over. Walking off stage isn't an option in Axl's play book anymore. He needs all the help he can get just re-launching his G N' R affair.

At the same time, Axl hasn't lost his edge. He's still got that voice. He's sounding better than ever in his role as frontman of this always controversial and so-called dangerous band. His stage presence complements the chemistry of his new super group.

If last year's show was any indication, he'll re-hash much of the original G N' R's material. Axl and Co. will likely perform many songs from Appetite For Destruction, such as "Night Train," "Mr. Brownstone" and "Rocket Queen," while throwing in a bunch of stuff from Use Your Illusion I and II.

Audiences may miss Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven, but the lineup change is positive and adds a creative edge. In fact, when Izzy Stradlin and Steven Adler parted ways, they were replaced by two talented guys, Gilby Clarke and Matt Sorum. The only original member joining Axl on stage this time will be keyboardist Dizzy Reed. The lineup from the last year's show also included Robin Finck, Kentucky Friend Chicken's favorite spokesperson, Buckethead, Paul Tobias, former Replacement Tommy Stinson and Brian "Brain" Mantia.

These guys are extraordinarily animated, much like past members, so it won't be a bore. Sure, fans might miss Slash with his black tophat, sunglasses and a cigarette dangling out of his mouth. But Buckethead sports a mask over his face and a KFC bucket over his head. You gotta love that. But recent rumors suggest that Buckethead's presence is questionable due to past medical problems, so we'll see.

The G N' R look is obviously different from those who did their tour of duty from '87 to '93--especially noticeable is Axl's beefed-up frame. Like an inmate biding his time, he must've been hitting the weights. One thing is for sure, this new group of musicians should be ready to perform after sitting on their asses for practically a year.

And that's nothing compared to the time it's taken to make the album. Axl has been working on this "new" album for supposedly about five years. The working title is Chinese Democracy, and it features new songs called "The Blues," "Silk Worm," and "Madagascar," which are also possible fodder for the upcoming shows.

So, another New Year's, another G N' R show. But, while the world may know exactly where Axl is for one night, the question remains--will he still be able to rock? Or will he disappear back into oblivion?

Come on, boys, get in the ring.
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Post by Blackstar Tue May 05, 2020 1:19 am

Review on CDNow/Allstar News, January 2, 2002:
Guns N' Roses' Las Vegas Show Plagued By Bad Sound; Axl Rose Goes Off Onstage

Has the bloom come off the Rose? That question lingered during Axl Rose & Co.'s two-night stint at the Joint at the Hard Rock Café Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas this New Year's weekend.

Rose's problems started even before the band took the stage Saturday (Dec. 29) for the first of two shows. After selling out last year's New Year's Eve's Vegas show in minutes, tickets remained on sale until the day before each show.

About an hour after the listed start time of 10 p.m., Rose walked out onstage in a Rich Gannon Oakland Raiders jersey, flanked by guitarists Buckethead (dressed in highway-marking yellow pants and smock, Michael Myers mask, and trademark KFC bucket on his head) and Paul Tobias on stage left; bassist Tommy Stinson -- who's put on a few pounds -- and Nine Inch Nails' guitarist Robin Finck on stage right; Brian "Brain" Mantia on a raised drumset behind Rose; and keyboardists Chris Pittman and Dizzy Reed in the upper left and right corners, respectively. Behind the band, 40 TV monitors and two giant TV screens flashed apocalyptic fireballs, psychedelic color bursts, images of war and car-crash carnage, as well as images of the band.

Guns opened the two-hour set with promise as the band ripped through "Welcome to the Jungle," and Rose showed he's still fond of the snaky dance moves and incessant stage-wandering of his earlier GN'R days. Without a word from the singer between songs, Guns blew through "It's So Easy," "Mr. Brownstone," and "Live and Let Die" with an energy that augured well for the evening. The band played extremely tight and Rose's voice was in perfect form. An overlong acoustic number by Buckethead that segued from Willy Wonka-esque riffs into the hackneyed "Eruption" served two purposes: Stopping the momentum of the set in its tracks and reminding everyone in the audience that, in Rock God status, Buckethead is no Slash. (Slash, meanwhile, was spotted walking around the casino with his guitar in hand, though an onstage appearance never transpired.)

But on "Oh My God," no sound came through Rose's mike, and while he went looking for a replacement, Finck inexplicably threw his guitar across stage. After the song, the band left and a tech announced, "We'll be right back." When they returned, Rose had ditched the Gannon jersey to go shirtless under a blue-velvet British soldier-style trench coat. But the vocal problems remained throughout the night, as Rose's lyrics disappeared in the harder-rocking moments of new Guns tracks like "Silkworms" and classics "You Could Be Mine" and "Sweet Child O' Mine." The mix problems meant no one could hear much of Rose, at which point most of the audience had to wonder -- "Did I just pay $200 to hear Stinson's backup vocals?" Perhaps the low moment came when the entire band sounded completely out of sync on "Knockin' on Heaven's Door."

After a quick two hours, the band closed with an inspired take on "Paradise City," and left without an encore. Most who attended the New Year's Eve show, however, opined that it was not just better than the Saturday night show, but it was even better than last year's impressive New Year's Eve gig.

It was hard not to feel robbed by the events of the evening, even if the main problem was mostly beyond the band's control. People (including this reviewer) who sat in dreadful $250 balcony seats -- stuck behind two rows of VIP seating that obstructed the view of the stage -- were particularly vocal in their displeasure at the venue for advertising the seats (on Ticketmaster) as "best available," when $100 floor seats offered much better sight lines. The box office made the hollow offer to refund the tickets, at the price of not seeing the sold-out show (i.e., you just pay for airfare and hotel to NOT see GN'R).

During a 10-minute mid-concert apologia, Rose rambled semi-coherently on how the record company, the studio, the producers, and everyone in the band "dropped the ball" in the last year until "we didn't know what the ball was." He explained that ticket prices were so high because of the expense to do one-off shows. He said the band was working "every fucking day," and that their new material "will knock the fucking ball out of the park." He told an anecdote about being moved when a man in an elevator thanked him for playing a show. He claimed to have learned about Guns' cancelled European tour via the Internet, to which someone in the audience screamed: "Aw, bullshit! Get a manager!"

In his rant, Rose also said that the show last year was a farewell to the old, while this year's show was a "taste of something new." But it was hard to believe him because Guns did not play any new songs that they hadn't already played live previously, leaving one to wonder where Rose plans to go with his new band mates. The feeling after the show was that Rose and his band are still in search of an identity: Right now, this incarnation is no more Guns N' Roses than the Stones would be the Stones if only Mick Jagger remained in the band.

-- Sam Jemielity


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Post by Blackstar Tue May 05, 2020 1:21 am

Fan review posted on KNAC.COM, December 31, 2001:
Guns N’ Roses Live In Las Vegas

By Darren K, Pure Rock Patroller
Monday, December 31, 2001 @ 11:15 AM


Guns N’ Roses Live At The Joint At The Hard Rock Café Hotel & Casino, December 29th, 2001

I was not very excited coming into this show as opposed to last year’s House Of Blues show where I could not sleep for days before the event.

I didn't think this show would be nearly as good as the HOB show. Before the concert started, I got to hang out with other GN’R Bar members and I was in line with C2YA talking about GN’R and stuff. Anyway, once the door opened I tried to get right up to the stage but people were already crowded up against the barrier so I just went to the souvenir stand and got two t-shirts. They are not nearly as cool as “Chinese Democracy Starts Now!" shirts but I had to get them anyway. So after I got the shirts I ended up getting a really awesome seat. I was right up against the railing on the first fold, which was like raised about a foot from where the other floor section was. It was great because nobody got in my way. I could see everything clearly. After about three hours of waiting, the lights dimmed, the balcony opened, and the big screen TVs were on.

There were two new opening clips. The first one made no sense at all to me. It was some cheesy B-movie of a soldier running through enemy fire. I had no idea what the hell that had to do with anything. The second clip also did not make much sense to me either. It had something to do with money and how we are a slave to money. Once the clip ended, they started to play “Welcome To The Jungle” and the place went nuts.

I don't know what the hell happened to Axl. He either got liposuction or went on some amazing diet because he looks like he lost about 25+ pounds from the Rock In Rio 3 gig last year. He first came out wearing a football jersey then he changed into one of those Bruce Lee kung fu outfits (the ones that are all black with white buttons). He left it unbutton. I'm gonna quote Bart Simpson when I say this but Axl "could grate cheese on his abs." The guy looked great. Buckethead was his typical self. Nothing new. Robin Finck had longer hair, as did Tommy Stinson. Paul looks the same and Brain shaved his head completely bald. Dizzy has long dread locks. Oh and Chris Pitman...I'm not sure if I am right because it was a little hard to see (I have bad vision) but it looked as if he was going for the Slipknot look. I think he had some sort of mask on with zippers on it and long dread locks. Anyway he looked awesome. A lot better then the gay biker look he was going with before.

I have two complaints about this show. 1) They pretty much used the SAME EXACT SET LIST as they did at HOB and Rio. Except they didn't play “Nightrain” and “Rhiad.” My second complaint was the sound. All I know is by today somebody is going to be looking for a job. Those techs did a horrible job. There were times where Axl's voice kept dropping in and out especially during “Oh My God,” where his mic did not work at all. I have never seen him look so pissed off in my life. The band was playing a great version of “Oh My God” (the best I have heard) but there were no vocals. Axl kept walking backstage (probably to cuss them out) and coming back onstage. At one point he just stood there with this look on his face as if he was saying, "somebody is going to die." Near the end of “Oh My God,” Axl walked off stage and at the very end of the song Robin Finck threw his guitar on the floor and the entire band left the stage. At this point everybody was either pissed off or worried (or both). Worried because there was a very good chance that the show was over. Then out of the blue they got back on stage as if nothing went wrong and started playing. I have to hand it to Tommy Stinson, even with all the problems going on, he maintained his composure and sang the chorus to the song.

That was not the only thing that was screwed up with the sound. Buckethead's solos could barely even be heard. I could not even hear his solo at the end of “November Rain.” However, with those major flaws in the show, I must say that they exceeded my expectations and played a better show then they did at HOB and Rio. The band played every song like it was meant to be played and Axl's voice was louder then it was before (despite the audio problems). They played harder and louder then they did at HOB and it was just a better show in my opinion.

I would have to say that the biggest surprise of the show was “Silk Worms.” They did some serious tweaking with this song and it sounds amazing. The other version just had a bunch of noises that didn't really fit together. This newer version works perfectly and it follows a structure. “November Rain” was great. Axl had a new piano intro to the song and “Madagascar” was amazing. Before this show, I would say that “Madagascar” was not one of my favorites of the new songs. However, for some reason this version sounded much harder. I loved it.

I was a little disappointed with Buckethead. He had a pretty long solo act going on where he was alone on stage (no kung fu moves this time) just shredding on guitar. I was not very impressed by it. It didn't sound all that great. Where he did impress me is when he played an acoustic guitar right before “Patience.” I have never in my life heard an acoustic guitar sound so good. He did some crazy finger picking on that song.

Brain...this guy is amazing. I can't stress how important he is to the band. His drumming made this show great.

Robin nailed ever solo that he played.

And Axl -- his voice gets better and better with every show. His voice sounds so much cleaner and he has more range. He is able to hold his voice for a pretty long time.

He is just altogether a much different person.

I was shocked when he was shaking hands with the fans. And his speech that he gave...well it answered a lot of questions.

He talked about why the European tour was canceled. His story follows the press release that was given to the press when they canceled it. Turns out the record label wanted to make some money so they booked the shows without Axl's knowledge. It was funny because he said the first time he found out he was playing in Europe was when he read it on the Internet. He said that he was not ready for the shows and instead of canceling it they postponed it to later dates because they had already made a lot of money off of it (they sold out most of the venues according to Axl) and did not want to give a refund. And as we all know...those shows got canceled. He also talked about how the HOB and RIR shows were not planned by him and that the band was not even prepared. Axl said that before they rehearsed for the shows, much of them members in the band had never even spoken one work to each other. He also took time out to give another stab at the old members. He said they were not in GN’R for GN’R. They just loved the celebrity of the whole thing. Then he went on to say that these shows in Vegas were his planning and they were actually ready to play the gig. Axl jokingly acknowledged that because he planned it that everything had to mess up (the sound) and he said "but that's OK." The audience (including myself) were puzzled. Like "who the fuck is this guy? what did he do to Axl?" It was amazing to see Axl brush it off like it was nothing. If this had happened in the ‘80s or early ‘90s, Axl would have thrown a fit.

The most touching part of the speech was at the end where he said (this isn't an exact quote) "we have been working day and night on this album. You may like it or you may hate it but I gave it my best." This is about the time where I totally accepted the fact that GNR IS AXL ROSE.

They closed the show with “Paradise City” (my neck is still hurting from head banging to this song) and that was the end of what was probably the greatest GN’R show.
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Post by Blackstar Tue May 05, 2020 1:24 am

Another fan review on KNAC.COM, December 31, 2001:
Guns N’ Roses Live In Las Vegas

By SunTzu, Pure Rock Patroller
Monday, December 31, 2001 @ 11:14 AM


Guns N’ Roses Live At The Joint At The Hard Rock Café Hotel & Casino, December 29th, 2001

The place was packed all the way to the bar area. I know, because that's where I was... . I don't know about the upper balcony, because it was pretty dark above me, but I could see people lined up along the whole railing.

Buckethead's third solo was Eddie Van Halen's "Eruption." It was damn good, I must say.

It was during “Mr. Brownstone” that Axl got hit in the face with a KFC bucket. I thought to myself "shit"!! He is going to get pissed off. But, to my surprise, he kept on singing and he eventually wore the KFC Bucket for about 30 seconds.

They finally resolved Axl's mic problem after “Oh My God.” Robin heaved/threw his guitar big time. I don't blame Axl for being pissed. I would be too if the crowd couldn't hear the lyrics because of technical problems.

I felt that the crowd booed Axl because he was putting down the former members with his remarks about them only caring about being "celebrities" He wasn't angry or pissed when he made the remarks. He just said them in a matter of fact tone. Kinda raised his eyebrows a little.

All in all, I thought the show was great once they worked out the technical problems. This new line-up can definitely play. I saw the old line-up live back in the early nineties and this was my first time hearing and seeing this new line-up live. I really enjoyed watching Robin play. I can't wait for the new album to come out. It will do very well. I guess the only question is when will it come out?
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Another fan review, KNAC.COM, January 7, 2002:
Guns N’ Roses Live In Las Vegas

By Ramanathan Sundararajan , Pure Rock Patroller
Monday, January 7, 2002 @ 2:02 PM


This is a late review of the concert. That’s cause I only just reached Sydney. I have to say that I loved every bit of the concert. Even the things that went wrong, I hope that my criticism is constructive and that Mr. Rose would read my insights and respect my views on everything that happened. To start off, I waited 11 hours to get into the Joint as I wanted a really good spot at GA (Golden Arena). The people there were very cool, we talked about GN’R, music, life, etc. Met people from “GNR Bar”. When we entered the Joint, this shocked the hell outta me. We weren’t put through a metal detector. All we were asked was if we were carrying any recording equipment. No one was even body searched. That sucked. I was very worried about the safety of everyone including the band throughout the concert. The concert was supposed to begin at 10:00pm, but it began at 11:00pm. We were told that earlier, so we waited inside the Joint since like 8:00. I was right near the stage when the concert started off and you could hear Axl’s voice in the background while a video of an American soldier blowing stuff up was shown. Then they also showed money and gambling in Vegas, and the video said something along the lines off, “There is a holy system that runs under money, a system of life, and this is the system that you have destroyed…and for this you shall pay.” I think he was referring to the terrorists September 11th. They showed to a sickening point, money and Vegas, and then out of nowhere. I couldn’t breathe at this point, Axl ran out and started doing “Welcome to the Jungle.” At this point, there were people trying to jump me from the back to get my spot. A girl grabbed my ass and said she would “suck my dick for my spot.” I was like “Bitch, get your fucking hands off me.”

There were about 30 TV sets on screen that were running off a Macintosh displaying shit from what appeared to be very similar to ‘Winamp’. This wasn’t impressive to me. Heck I am a Comp Sci student, I can fucking kick ass with a budget like the thing they got. Axl, send me a mail anytime man. I will fly over and make your stage fucking cool. Their TV’s were very low resolution and I could actually the see the Mac title on the Window and I thought it sucked really. There was even a time when Axl’s face was morphed and stuff, and I was like, man, with they kind of tech available, and their budget, they really needed some Plasma screens up there doing cool shit. They played a lot of old songs as you know. Like Axl said during Rio, they did play the fuck out of those songs. They sound very, very, very, very powerful with the current band. I think everyone was amazed.

Now to Axl’s speech. This was very confusing. From what I understood, he explained that he wasn’t aware that a European tour even existed as he was working on the new album. No one had told him, and that he had found about it while getting on the net. And he said, “Imagine my surprise when I read that it was sold out.” He said that the management and the record company, all they cared about was the money they were making and that was precisely why the tour was postponed not cancelled, because they wanted to keep the money. As Axl refused to do the tour cause of time constraints, they had to cancel. Axl further talked about “Oh My God” and how that was just in a demo tape which the management insisted be put on the Arnie soundtrack which Axl said ok to hesitantly. Axl went on to say that they band had been working on the album for a long time, and that it kick everything else out of the fucking ball park. He said he didn’t know if we would like it, but all he could promise was that they would work very, very hard in order to produce a kick ass album. He talked about the fact that Buckethead and Finck hadn’t met before rehearsals for December 31st, 2000 and that was a problem. He said that there were all these people who were joining the band and some of them didn’t want to be here but they liked the image that the celebrity that the title offered.

Some of this stuff was unbelievable considering the common presumption that Axl has strict control over everything Guns N’ Roses, it seemed unbelievable that the management would do so much without his knowledge. The thing about Slash being there for the concert and not being let in, I didn’t see him and couldn’t vouch for that, it could just be a rumor as I am pretty sure Slash wouldn’t bother coming in to the concert as he would know that Axl wouldn’t allow it. That just seems stupid beyond belief.

I saw Robin Finck before the concert, I didn’t recognize him however. Ha ha. I thought he was just a wannabe fan. I looked at him strange and he looked back. He looked freaky, like his head shaved halfway. Looked mental. But in the concert got used to him. Axl looked cool. Lost a lot of weight as we know from the WNBC interview. He nearly tripped and fell while running on the encore. Buckethead was great too. Very talented music. Can’t compare him to Slash. Buckethead is too new-wave, cool, next generation, young, electronic guitarist. Very different from the Blues emotion filled magic that was Slash, but great in his own way. Finck was very talented. The whole band has a Slipknot like feel to it, because there are like eight members now. But, each one of them has distinct personalities. What was really freaky was the fact that Paul Tobias looked EXACTLY like Axl, except he had a beard and hair like Kurt Cobain and he played guitar like Cobain as well. That freaked me out. There was a time when the mike went off and Finck’s guitar went off and they threw that shit and walked off the stage. Axl actually walked off the stage around 4 times. There were people throwing t-shirts and KFC buckets on stage as well as Giving Roses to Axl, which he appreciated.

Concert ended with Axl throwing the mike to the audience, and that was it. They didn’t stay to shake hands or anything. I bought a beanie and two of the Guns shirts on sale.

I just want Axl to know that the concert meant a lot to me. Also the fact that Guns had meant a lot to me when I was a kid going thru my personal issues and listening to a Guns album was the only way I could relate and handle the situation. Thank you for everything, and I am sure you guys are gonna fucking kick ass, sell millions of records and shit. Throw me a line in sometime.

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Still waiting for the record.
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Other fan reviews (from gnrontour.com)
Ravi's Review:

It didn’t seem like a year had gone by when we cruised into Las Vegas again to see GNR. It was hard to believe that they were actually playing 2 shows there. After listening to some Stones, U2, and Izzy Stradlin' in the car, my cousin Neil and I were ready to get out and relax a bit. I was hoping to see some new material but apparently they didn’t want to do that because of bootlegging the new songs. So basically, the setlists and the poor sound quality of the first show were the only real complaints I had. Otherwise, the shows were killer!

We got into town around mid afternoon and checked in and then met some of the people. I wanted to eat before the show so on Mark’s recommendation we hit Terrible Herb’s, which was all right. We had to go back to the hotel because people had to change, and Mark had to take about 4 showers. Then we headed to the Hard Rock, which was across the street, very convenient! Luckily, they let us wait in line inside, unlike the last time I was there to see the Black Crowes. We stood in line along the slot machines near the entrance and just hung out and talked about the expectations for the show, old concert stories and all sorts of random stuff. I saw Del James running around looking busy, and ran into Robert John and spoke to him for a bit. It wasn’t so painful as last year because we could sit down by the slots. Amazingly, they let us in on time (ok, maybe 2 or 3 minutes after they said they would) and they made it quick because people checked our tickets and scanned them beforehand. Unfortunately, there were enough people in front of us that I couldn’t get up too close to the stage when I got into the venue. So, I decided to stand by the railing on the right side, behind the handicapped access platform. This point was higher than the entire floor, so I got a great view of the stage overall. I stood by John, Holtz and Jeff before he went up to the balcony. Near me, I met a guy from San Francisco and a girl from LA and a few others that we hung out with from St. Louis and other cities. Most of all, people were cool, besides for the drunken morons like this one girl who kept bothering us and this old guy in the handicapped section. She was almost kicked out but luckily after about 20 minutes of hell, she left by herself. She was completely wasted!

After a couple more impatient hours of listening to Pearl Jam’s Ten (a couple times) and Jane’s Addiction’s first album, they looked ready to go. I noticed the clocks on the stage like last year, one on each side. At about 11:00 the intro video started among chants of “Guns N’ Roses!!” and people were really excited. After that the band comes out to Welcome to the Jungle and Axl in a white #22 Gannon jersey and black leather pants screaming, “You Know Where The Fuck You Are?????” (Later on he would change into a long dark blue soldier type coat and have his hair held back) My first impression was that Axl was in great shape, looking even better than last year and he certainly sounded awesome. His voice is in top shape and he was able to sing everything and hit every note, barring the sound problems. During the first song, someone was pissing him off and I saw him flip off a guy in the audience. Maybe because these guys were yelling for Slash and Gilby. Robin had on a black jumpsuit I believe, and I couldn’t really see what Dizzy or Brain were wearing. Buckethead had on the same yellow raincoat type outfit as when I saw him at the AC/DC Rock Walk induction with a backpack and a FUNERAL KFC bucket on. Tommy had red hair this time and wore black pants and a reddish shirt that said “Bomb” on it. He looked very punk. Paul had longer hair and it looked lighter, with a beard. Chris looked like a criminal with pantyhose covering his head. Brain had a Mohawk and a red DW (I think) drumkit.

I’m not going to go into that much detail on the songs because they were similar to the 2nd night and I already wrote that up, but I will go over the highlights. This time Brain and Robin made more of an impression on me than last year. I already love Buckethead! Robin did some awesome soloing on Welcome to the Jungle, It’s So Easy, November Rain, Sweet Child, Patience. Buckethead was excellent throughout, and I could see how he played with the close-ups on the screens. Unfortunately the picture quality on those on the sides of the venue wasn’t very good, and had some static. I couldn’t hear many of Buckethead’s solos, and he had some volume difficulties also. Axl’s vocals would also cut out, on and off, especially in the first half of the show. Supposedly their normal sound guy couldn’t be at the show. Axl kept looking up at the sound guy and even stopped to yell at him at one point during the 2nd half.

Buckethead’s solo sections were great, especially when he added in the Star Wars themes and the Pirates of the Caribbean theme. He must have loved going to see the Treasure Island hotel. I saw the butler on the side but he didn’t end up doing his thing. I really loved the acoustic solo because I had never seen him do that before. He seemed to me more into it this time and moved around the stage more, and interacted with the other guys more also. No nunchucks this time, but I saw Axl pick them up during a solo section and he fooled around with them. He makes the show a lot more interesting I think because there are a lot of different things that they could change and do with Buckethead during the different shows. I’d say it also shows that he is more part of the band rather than just hired to play a few solos here and there.

You Could Be Mine was awesome as was Rocket Queen and Its so Easy. I clearly remember Axl running up to the front of the stage in the beginning of the song and abruptly stopping like he used to do. He gave the finger during that interlude and looked so angry. Oh my God was very interesting because Axl’s mic cut out almost the whole song and he looked really angry. Eventually he spiked the mic and stormed angrily off stage after trying to sing the song since the sound was screwed up. Tommy finished off the song singing the chorus and I was wondering if they would stop the show. Someone saw Robin throw his guitar down in a fit of rage also. Luckily he came back afterward, and the sound was a little bit better. One thing I had never seen or heard before came at the end of November Rain, where the band ended the song after the crescendos and you could clearly hear the storm and rain sounds like the album version for quite a long time, and that sounded perfect.

Knockin’ on Heaven’s door had some lyrical mistakes in it, and I saw Axl staring at the teleprompter in confusion. Apparently it screwed up and he ended up singing the wrong words, so he did one verse again. I noticed some lighters out for this one and also Patience. Later, hearing Madagascar live for the first time was really awesome. I noticed that I like the new songs more now than I did before. In the beginning someone threw a KFC bucket on stage and Axl wore it with a big grin on his face as he looked at Buckethead. Also, later on someone threw a black cowboy hat at Axl and he wore it, which looked pretty damn cool. Tommy ended up wearing it later on during the show and he looked just like Duff. I think also that Chris at some point threw a cup of water into the crowd and he also threw the hat back into the crowd.

After Rocket Queen, Axl stopped and talked for a minute, giving us some insight into what was going on. He mentioned that these shows were the first ones that he wanted to play since the Illusions. He also talked about Alan Niven and how that guy was now fired because he booked some shows without consulting the band. He related a story of how a guy who he met in the elevators thanked him for playing the shows and how moved he was by that gesture. He also addressed the European tour and that he didn’t even know at first that they were going to play that and that he found out on the internet. He said, "One day I was sitting at home on the Internet and I found out that the GN'R tour was cancelled and I had no idea that I had a tour." But everything was selling out, it was great!! So, instead of making a statement and risking being sued and taking more time away from working on the album, they said nothing. He also said "We're in the studio doing this album and I can promise you that we're gonna deliver and it's gonna be out of the ballpark" and "we've been working on this album and I can tell you we're doing our best and that's all I can promise." He also said that you will like it or you won’t, but we are giving it our best efforts and working on this thing every day. He said that the band was kinda thrown together quickly because they were asked to do the first 2 shows and they weren’t prepared. He mentioned that the old members liked their Celebrity status but apparently didn’t want to work hard on the new album. He said that it was ironic that all these things were going wrong and he apologized. He also said that the managers, the record company, the executives, and the whole band dropped the ball on the album. It was good that he accepted the blame for it and perhaps elements out of his control affected the release of the album. It was a good little speech, and I was happy that he at least addressed some of the issues that we had been wondering about.

Paradise City was extremely loud, probably the loudest song of the night, and it sounded HEAVY! Unfortuntately, I didn’t like the way the new band (Paul?) did the opening chords as much as the old guys. There will always be certain things that I will miss about them, especially the bluesy parts. Paradise City was a great closer of course, but it left me wanting more since there was no encore. Overall a pretty good show, but I hope that next time they change the set more and add more new songs. This was a “little taste of something new” as Axl said, so I guess these “rehearsal” shows marked the beginning of a new era of Guns N’ Roses which I welcome!
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12/29... THANKS TO C2YA FOR INFORMING US ALL!
He sat in the front row in between Axl and Buckethead. He could see the lyric monitor. Lots of monitors.
They didn't even check people so the show is probably bootlegged. Professional filming crew at the show.

Madagascar sounded awesome...

Video clips in the background were different than Rio...during November Rain a whale was shown... psychedelic looking... during Buckethead's solo there was a lot of weird symbols (like hieroglyphics).
During one song, Axl was pissed off talking to someone at the soundboard....he wore the ear monitor device....

At the beginning of the show.... They showed a video clip of new GN'R logo (orange/blue with the US flag in the background), then they show the space shuttle and satellite from space camera zooms in through to Earth and gets to land then they show a movie - a soldier is running through weeds and shit during this, kick ass music clips from what is most likely a new GN'R song is played (pounding drums, awesome evil guitar from hell). Then they show tanks and all hell breaks loose. It could be something from a new movie (from what he noticed, he's not sure) and then they went on to another video with a narrator that sounded like George C. Scott and he said "The Arabs have taken our money - it's time to put the money back" and it talked about the economy and it starts talking about who's the real evil in the world (money and weird shit) then they show a cartoon of chinese soldiers then it ends.

Stage Setup:
Brain, Dizzy, and Chris's equipment was 5' high (kind like the UYI tour setup) Axl's piano came out from under the drum kit There was a catwalk; Axl ran back and forth a lot Brain had a glittery red drumset

Members:
Axl was thinner. Looked the same, was wearing a white Oakland Raiders Rich Gannon #12 jersey and had black leather pants and Lugz boots that were brown with black bottoms. Nike watch on right hand, Bracelet on left. 2nd half of the show he wore dark-purplish Prince Valiant coat shirtless. Voice was great...screams were fucking on-spot. Robin wore an all black jumpsuit Buckethead had a yellow jacket. He was wearing Lakers pants. He wore a green backpack halfway through the show. His KFC bucket had blood stains on it. Played the white Gibson and the Flying V. Had his toys...had a head of a bald headed guy - bobbing head Devil doll...Axl played with his toys. Dizzy looked like Dizzy. 90% of the show Chris wore pantyhose over his head - he was crazy as hell...he was headbanging and s.hit...he played acoustic during Patience. (Not sure if it was Patience though, could have been Knockin' On Heaven's Door). Paul had a beard. Tommy wore black pants and a black t-shirt that said "bomb" He also dyed his hair red. Brain had a mohawk.

The sound was screwed up early in the show and during Oh My God Axl's mic went very low and he got really really pissed. He threw the microphone and walked to the side of the stage and stared in the sound technician's face...looked evil as hell; more evil than what he looked like at Rio. So Tommy sang almost the rest. During the end of the song, Robin got pissed and threw his guitar at the speaker and it broke and then threw (like launched it) the mic stand across the stage.

Axl said "this is the first show in 10 years that he wanted to do" and goes on to talk about how Alan Niven forced them to tour in 91 and he fired him for it. And then he talks about the European tour. He had no idea there was a European tour. He said, "One day I was sitting at home on the internet and I found out that the GN'R tour was cancelled and I had no idea that I had a tour." He said don't blame him for the cancellation. He also said has to deal with the "Internet Whores" and "Gossip Whores" (probably talking about Carrie Vrenna) He also said "We're in the studio doing this album and I can promise you that we're gonna deliver and it's gonna be out of the ballpark" And "we've been working on this album and I can tell you we're doing our best and that's all I can promise." He said someone in the elevator thanked him for doing a show and he was really moved about it. Later on he repeated again about this was the first time he wanted to do a show and it was all fucking up, but he smiled about it.

Buckethead did three solos. The first solo was after the 4th or 5th song and it consisted of Pirates of the Caribbean/Big Sur Moon/Star Wars. The 2nd solo was acoustic and it went slow to fast. The 3rd was electric.

Some bimbo threw some candy and roses at Axl... he took it and put it in front of the drum kit. Someone threw a KFC bucket at Axl and he wore it. He looked at Buckethead and smiled at him and Buckethead looked back. Someone threw a black cowboy hat at Axl and he wore it - Tommy wore it at end. Axl started doing the "two-step" while having a huge smile on his face during Paradise City.

They had confetti... might be planning to drop it for New Year's Eve...just a little dropped here and there during the show...

Rick Rubin, Pauly Shore, and Owen Wilson were at the show.

Robin Finck's guitar tech said 68 songs done - working on 14 more.

Some dude in line claimed to have clips from the Vegas DVD that some girl hooked him up with.

*Note* Chris said, "I'm trying to give the best review possible...please don't bash me if something is wrong."
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Post by Blackstar Tue May 05, 2020 4:56 am

Report on both Vegas shows, NME, January 1, 2002:
GUNS N' ROSES RETURN (AGAIN)

GUNS N' ROSES have played their first gigs in almost a year as part of their faltering comeback.
The rock legends performed at the Joint in Las Vegas' Hard Rock Cafe on Saturday (December 29) and Sunday (December 30).

The gigs, which followed the sudden cancellation of a European tour earlier this year, did not proceed without problems. Ex-guitarist Slash was reportedly refused entry to the December 30 show, with a security guard telling reporters that frontman Axl Rose had barred the former band member. Rose is now the only remaining member of the group's successful line-up of the early 90s.

Meanwhile, tickets for the 1,400-capacity shows did not sell out until the night of the gigs. The only celebrities in attendance were producer Rick Rubin and porn actor Ron Jeremy with some of his female co-stars. Guns N' Roses played for around two hours each night and there were no encores. The set list was a disappointment for fans wanting to hear the band debut new material, as it was largely the same as their set at last year's Rock In Rio festival and the initial comeback gig in Las Vegas on New Year's Eve in 2000.

Rose walked off stage on a number of occasions because of trouble with his mic and he also subjected the audience to a tirade about the problems the band had faced. The singer also revealed that he had no idea Guns N' Roses were supposed to play a European tour. According to fans, he told the audience: "One day I was sitting at home on the internet and I found out that the tour was cancelled and I had no idea that I had a tour."

Fans also said that a film crew was shooting at the shows, suggesting that it may be used for a future video/DVD release. An animated film at the start of each show also revealed a new logo for the band name.

The set list for the gigs was:

'Welcome To The Jungle'
'It's So Easy'
'Mr Brownstone'
'Live And Let Die'
'Oh My God'
'Think About You'
'Sweet Child O' Mine'
'Knocking On Heaven's Door'
'Madagascar'
'November Rain'
'Out To Get Me'
'Rocket Queen'
'Chinese Democracy'
'The Blues'
'Patience'
'My Michelle'
'Silk Worms'
'Paradise City'

Rose is understood to be continuing work on the long delayed 'Chinese Democracy' album.
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Post by Blackstar Sat May 09, 2020 5:10 pm

Article by ABC News, December 31, 2001:
Slashed Turned Away

Former Guns N’ Roses Guitarist Barred From Old Band’s Gig

By Al Mancini

L A S V E G A S, Dec. 31 — Guns N' Roses made a rare concert appearance, but former member Slash wasn't allowed to see it.

Saturday night's sold-out show at the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino was only the second U.S. gig that Guns have performed in eight years. Former guitarist Slash was in town for the show, but was turned away at the door.
Speaking briefly with ABCNEWS Radio, Slash said he tried to get in, but couldn't. A security guard confirmed his account, blaming band frontman Axl Rose for the exclusion.

Rose, the only member remaining from the group's classic Appetite For Destruction lineup, reportedly told the venue he would walk offstage if he saw any of his former bandmates in the audience.

European Tour? What European Tour?

Most of those who made it into the venue, however, seemed pleased with the show, despite technical difficulties that appeared to aggravate Rose.

"I couldn't really hear Axl's voice," one fan said. "But you know what? I've been waiting to See Guns N' Roses my whole life, so it was good times."

According to those who saw it, the band kicked off the set with "Welcome to The Jungle." Axl dressed in a Rich Gannon Oakland Raiders jersey and performed new material as well as classic Guns songs.

"It's not the old lineup," another fan said. "I mean, the guys weren't into it … It just wasn't Slash."

Rose spoke directly to the crowd about the technical problems as well as the band's twice-aborted European tour, and their new lineup.

Rose blamed unresolved legal issues for the fact that he no longer performs with former members of the group and said he had never committed to play the much-publicized European tour, which was postponed this summer, rescheduled, and then canceled. In fact, he told the crowd that he learned about it on the Internet.
https://web.archive.org/web/20031209163848/http://abcnews.go.com:80/sections/entertainment/DailyNews/slash011231.html
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Post by Blackstar Sat May 09, 2020 9:06 pm

Another related article, KNAC.COM, January 1, 2002:
Slash Turned Away At Guns N Roses Vegas Show

By Frank Meyer, Contributing Editor

According to Blabbermouth.net, former Guns N' Roses guitarist Slash told ABC News Radio that he was turned away at the door of Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas on Saturday, December 29th when he tried to enter the venue to see Axl Rose and his backing crew perform their second U.S. gig in eight years. A security guard reportedly confirmed Slash's account, blaming Rose for the exclusion. Axl allegedly told the venue he would walk offstage if he saw any of his former bandmates in the audience.

In related news, fans attending Saturday's show have reported that a professional film crew was filming the concert for possible release in the future. No word as to whether this would be released before or after the long awaited Chinese Democracy album. Though no new songs from this still-in-progress effort has officially been released, the revamped band have played several of them at this show, the New Year’s Eve show last night, and the pair of show the band played at the beginning of the year at House of Blues in Vegas and Rock In Rio 3. Song titles from songs played live off of Chinese Democracy include “Madagascar,” “Silkworms,” “The Blues,” and the title track.
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Post by Soulmonster Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:31 am

Fernando talking about whether the show was recorded:

The infamous 2001! What a fucking show that was. Oh my God. Honestly, I do not know but I know that we have three hampers full of fucking shit that it's like on beta fucking cans like on all these different formats that literally I have to have our video company set up some hardware that's able that allows me to literally be able to play what we have. Realistically, we should have every show we have ever played, with exception of Apollo, because we didn't video that show. I don't believe, do we? No, I think we just recorded it. We didn't have a screen.
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