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1993.05.22 - Hayarkon Park, Tel Aviv, Israel

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May 22, 1993
Hayarkon Park, Tel Aviv, Israel
Setlist:
01. It's So Easy
02. Mr. Brownstone
03. Live and Let Die
04. Welcome to the Jungle
05. Attitude
06. Double Talkin' Jive
07. You Ain't the First
08. You're Crazy
09. Used to Love Her
10. Patience
11. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
12. November Rain
13. You Could Be Mine
14. Sweet Child O'Mine
15. Dead Horse
16. Paradise City

Date:
May 22, 1993.

Venue:
Hayarkon Park

Location:
Tel Aviv, Israel.

Notes:
Gilby had broken his wrist and Izzy returned to play five gigs.

Line-up:
Axl Rose (vocals), Izzy Stradlin (rhythm guitarist), Slash (lead guitarist), Duff McKagan (bass), Dizzy Reed (keyboards) and Matt Sorum (drums).


Quotes:
Part of the reason [for doing these five shows] was that I had time off in Indiana, I wasn't really doing anything important, just working on bikes, motorcycles, and, yeah, "maybe it's fun". They played Turkey, they played Greece, they played Israel, so maybe it's cool to go see those places since I've never been there. And I knew all the music so it wasn't like I had to study or practise much, just take a guitar and go over. But the main reason was that for a year and a half since I left them they had never paid me all the money that I was owed, because there was a dispute about what was. So I told them, "look, tell your people to call my people and write up some paperwork and pay me my fucking money" [Interview with Izzy in Japan, September 22, 1993]

I really looked forward to playing with him again and really hoped that he had changed. I booked a place before the first gigs in Tel Aviv to rehearse. But Izzy thought it was unnecessary, that it was just wasted time. He hadn't changed one bit and therefore the gigs turned out the way they did. [...] Izzy simply doesn't like playing rock at the level where we are right no. We understand it no and I'm personally very fucking disappointed at his previous behavior [Metal Zone, December 1993]

I'd returned to Indiana, I lived peacefully, and one day, Axl called me. He asked me whether, effectively, I could help them on some concerts. I asked where these shows would take place, and it answered in Istanbul, in Athens, in London... you think that I hesitated (laughter)?! I love to travel and see new countries! Besides, Alan Niven, my manager, who was also that of Guns in the beginning, explained to me that the band still owed me some money. He advised me to accept to make them pay what they still owed me. It's only afterwards that I realized that Alan was going to get 20% of this sum (laughter)! I did these shows and I didn't enjoy myself a lot because Duff and Slash were always still
wasted. I don't want to pretend I'm a saint, 'cause I did everything, but when you're clean, there's nothing funny about seeing your friends like that.  
[Hard Rock (French), June 2001]

It was weird. We toured Greece, Istanbul, London – I liked that side of it, seeing some places I’d never seen. […] a big shit load of money sitting somewhere [for me] and they weren’t paying me [it]. I don’t know the deal was, some kind of legal bullshit. […] Money was a big sore point. I did the dates just for salary. I mean, I helped start this band… [...] I didn’t actually say ‘see you’ cos they were all fucked up. Duff and these guys, they didn’t even recognise me. It was really bizarre. It was like playing with zombies. Ah, man, it was just horrible. Nobody was laughing anymore…[Classic Rock, 2001]
Myself, I've always been friends with Izzy, and so it’s really good, like, him stepping back in. It’s okay, I mean he’s forgotten to do the songs (laughs). But that’s alright, you know. People know that he hasn’t played with us for over two years, so they’re not gonna expect crystal clear, perfect sounds coming off the stage. Cuz they definitely are not. Not that I just think it’s Izzy, I mean everybody. We’ve never been perfect[MTV. May 1993].
You know, I read something somewhere. Someone was writing an article about my other friends. And they wrote this thing about how 'in the old days, you know, there were lots of problems and technical errors of the band and Izzy couldn't hear himself' [laughing] The reason that Izzy couldn't hear himself - this isn't being mean - is our roadies would stand behind Izzy's amp, 'cause Izzy would be so whacked out of his mind that he would basically be playing a different song in the wrong key, and the only way we could do the songs was that every time he would go to him amps, he would turn his amps up and turn around to the crowd. When he would turn around to the crowd the roadie would reach around and turn his amps back down so that we could play the song. That worked especially well in Tel Aviv [laughter] Just a full tippit there for your Trivia Pursuit [Onstage Boston, December 2002]
The gig in Israel was great, but the press response was inaccurate about how important the gig was to us. they seemed to think we used that particular show as a rehersal but it was the second leg of our international tour and it was the first time that we had played with Izzy in two years. But we had a REALLY good time and we love the country.
Netscape Online Chat, July 30, 1996



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Associated Press via The Odessa American, May 23, 1993:

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Guns N’ Roses starts tour in Jerusalem

JERUSALEM (AP) — Over 40,000 fans packed the heavily secured Hayarkon Park along Tel Aviv’s beach-front on Saturday to see Guns N’ Roses kick off a 15-nation, seven-week European tour.

“If I don’t faint, I’ll run to the stage for the encore song, they can beat me and kill me and Axl will have to apologize,” one young woman told army radio as she waited for the show to start.

Fans paid $43 — the highest ever price for a rock concert in Israel — to see lead singer Axl Rose, dressed in his customary shorts and T-shirt, belt out hits like “Sweet Child of Mine.”

Yossi Setbon, commander of Tel Aviv area police, told the radio that the reception for the group was calm.
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Post by Soulmonster Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:12 am

Slash would comment on the press being inaccurate when reporting on this show:

The gig in Israel was great, but the press response was inaccurate about how important the gig was to us. they seemed to think we used that particular show as a rehersal but it was the second leg of our international tour and it was the first time that we had played with Izzy in two years. But we had a REALLY good time and we love the country.
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Article/review by the JTA (Jewish Telegraphic Agency) via the Australian Jewish News; May 28, 1993:

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Guns N’ Roses “behave” themselves in Holy Land
 
Hugh Orgel
 
Tel Aviv: MORE than 50,000 Israelis, mainly teenagers, packed the open-air auditorium in Tel Aviv’s Hayarkon Park on the weekend for a concert by the US heavy metal rock group Guns N’ Roses.
 
The Israeli venue was the kickoff point for tire controversial group’s 15-natlon, seven-week European tour.
 
Orthodox elements, headed by Knes­set Member Rabbi Yosef Ba-Gad of the right-wing Moledet party, had tried to have the rock group banned because of reports that its members were drug addicts and thus a threat to Israeli and Jewish culture.
 
The outspoken Ba-Gad, who claims Ire heads the largest yeshiva in the world and frequently breaks into traditional Hebrew songs, declared in one interview last week that he would bring to the park “scores of thou­sands" of his yeshiva students "to enter­tain the crowd and disrupt the indecent performance".
 
But the concert went off quietly, and the hundreds of regular police and bor­der police pressed into special service to deal with anticipated trouble had little to do. About 20 youngsters were halted at the electronic gate entrances for possession of drugs or knives.
 
Beefed-up Magen David Adom paramedics on duty were called upon to deal with some 200 cases of tainting brought on by the crush of the crowd at the entrances and the press to get near the stage. There were two reported cases of broken limbs among those in attendance.
 
The group, headed by Axl Rose, arrived In Israel on Friday and was reported by its host, the Tel Aviv Hilton, to have behaved over Shabbat in an "exemplary manner".

The entourage, which included scores of techni­cians, stayed quietly in their rooms, with only one group member venturing forth for a quick dip in the hotel pool.
 
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