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THE HISTORY - IN THEIR OWN WORDS

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Post by Soulmonster on Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:03 pm

APRIL 2000
LOOKING FOR A PRODUCER - ROY THOMAS BAKER?


Apparently, the quest for producers for the new record was not over, because in April 2000, media would report that Axl had been in talks with Roy Thomas Baker, who is best known for his work with Queen [MTV News, April 28, 2000]. A spokesperson for the band would confirm that Baker was in the studio with Axl but that he at this stage was only supplying additional production which may or may not make it onto the next GN'R album [MTV News, April 28, 2000]. Doug Goldstein would confirm that Sean Beaven was still a producer for the project [MTV News, April 28, 2000].

[Beavan has] been the only producer. The others were people we met with or tried out on some tracks [with].
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Post by Soulmonster on Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:09 pm

GUNS N' ROSES TO TOUR IN THE SUMMER OF 2000?


As late as in May, some press sources would suggest that Guns N' Roses were considering to tour with Testament and Dio [TotalRock! Radio, May 30, 2000; Edmonton Journal, June 11, 2000] and that it was Del James, who was doing songwriting with Testament's vocalist Chuck Billy, who had "put in a good word" about Testament to Axl [RockReport mailing list, May 30, 2000].
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Post by Soulmonster on Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:47 am

JUNE 22, 2000
AXL JAMS WITH GILBY


On June 22, 2000, Gilby did a concert at the Hollywood spot the Slim Jim Phantom's Cat Club with his side-band Starfuckers [MTV News, June 23, 2000]. Axl, who had attended a Roger Waters concert earlier in the night, joined Gilby onstage to sing vocals on the Rolling Stones songs 'Dead Flowers' and 'Wild Horses' [MTV News, June 23, 2000].

I guess he ran into some friends of mine at the Roger Waters show at Universal Amphitheater, and they told him that we were playing down there and he came by. Maybe he just wanted to have some fun.


After the show, Gilby and Axl allegedly talked for hours, mostly about Axl's new band and album:

He was really excited about it. He was explaining it to me. We didn't rehash anything. We had a good time.

When everything went down, him and I never got into any arguments, any fights or anything. It's kind of strange 'cause like I never quit. I never got fired. People always put you up like everybody hates each other, but . . . we never got in a fight. […] [Axl is] very, very excited about his new record and the new [GNR] band.
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Post by Soulmonster on Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:46 pm

NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS?


In an article in February 1999, the first indication came that previous band members from the new Guns era would not be free to publicly discuss every aspect of their tenure in Guns N' Roses, when Tommy said he couldn't talk about the albu in production [Star Tribune, February 26, 1999].

This would indicate that the band, or label, wanted to keep aspects of the forthcoming music secret to the public.

That band members were reluctant to talk about the music-in-making could also be gleamed from other article and interviews [KNAC.com, March 28, 2000]. Josh would say it explicitly:

I’m not really able to talk about [the new record].


But Josh would explain that "a friendly agreement is in place" [Calgary Herald, September 2, 2000]. This would indicate a verbal agreement between Josh and Guns N' Roses, more than signed non-disclosure agreements.

Not only band members would be subjects to NDAs, as Joey Quackenbush, a friend of Josh from the Vandals would realize when he met Axl:

Beside, I got to go to Axl's house, where I was made to sign a contract of confidentiality. So now I can't talk about the fact that I saw Axl in a dinosaur suit on Halloween or that I saw him push his piano into his swimming pool.
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Post by Soulmonster on Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:14 am

2000
WORK ON THE NEW RECORD


With Josh leaving the band, a UK spokeswoman for the band would be asked about the release date:

(The album could be) released this year, but I’ll believe it when I see it to be honest. We’ll all just have to wait and see. At the minute it isn’t even on our releases pending list.


In May 2000, Rolling Stone would publish an article where Jim Barber, "a former Geffen A&R executive who worked on the project", described the music he had heard:

The tracks reminded me of the best moments of Seventies Pink Floyd or later Led Zeppelin. There's nothing out there right now that has that kind of scope. Axl hasn't spent the last several years struggling to write Use Your Illusion over again.


The album was scheduled for a release in July 2000, but have been postponed indefinitely without even being listed with TBD [Launch, May 20, 2000; Wall of Sound, May 24, 2000]. The postponement might have been connected to Robin and Josh being out of the band.

There's not a release date right now, not that I'm aware of. And I would know.


In August 2000 Josh would be asked about how the music sounded and whether it was "better than the old stuff"

It's Guns and Roses.


In late 2000, rumours would have it that the band hoped to release the album early in 2001, to time it with their appearance at Rock in Rio 3, in January 2001 [Rolling Stone, October 27, 2000].


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Post by Soulmonster on Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:17 am

GUNS N' ROSES TO PLAY ROCK IN RIO 3 IN 2001


In October 2000, the news would break that Guns N' Roses would return to Rio De Janeiro, Brazil, to again play at Rock in Rio [MTV News, October 25, 2000]. The festival was scheduled for January 12 to 21, 2001, and Guns N' Roses was said to end the day on January 14, 2001  [MTV News, October 25, 2000; Rolling Stone, October 27, 2000]. The lineup was expected to consist of Axl, Paul, Buckethead, Tommy, Dizzy and Brain, and it was rumoured that Robin would return to the band for the show, too [MTV News, October 25, 2000]. At the time, neither the band's management or its label would confirm the rumours  [MTV News, October 25, 2000].

A few days after the rumours started to spread in the media, Doug Goldstein, at Big FD Entertainment, would confirm that Guns N' Roses would play at Rock in Rio in 2001, and that Robin would be part of the lineup [MTV News, October 30, 2000].


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Post by Soulmonster on Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:43 am

PLANNING A 2001 SUMMER TOUR


In October 2000, a statement from Doug Goldstein at Big FD Entertainment, would announce that the show at Rock in Rio 3, in January 2001, would be followed by a US summer tour [MTV News, October 30, 2000].
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Post by Soulmonster on Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:46 am

OCTOBER 2000
ROBIN IS BACK IN THE BAND


In addition to confirming that Guns N' Roses would play on Rock in Rio in January 2000, and that this show would be followed by a US summer tour, a press release from Doug Goldstein at Big FD Entertainment would also confirm that Robin would be back in the band for these shows [MTV News, October 30, 2000].
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OCTOBER 2000
BOB EZRIN TO WORK WITH THE BAND


In addition to all the other news announced in late October 2000, it would also be stated that producer Bob Ezrin was involved as an A&R person to help Guns N' Roses complete Chinese Democracy [MTV News, October 30, 2000].
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Post by Soulmonster on Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:20 am

NOT ONE BUT TWO RECORDS


In August 1999, it would be rumoured that the band was not working on one record, but two records, and that it was expected that both would be released in October 1999 [Metal Hammer, August 13, 1999].

When Axl finally did speak in late 1999, he revealed that not only had they worked on enough music for two records, but that they also planned for two records:

We've been working on, I don't know, 70 songs. […] The record will be about, anywhere from 16 to 18 songs, but we recorded at least two albums' worth of material that is solidly recorded. But we are working on a lot more songs than that at the same time... in that way, what we're doing is exploring so, you know, you get a good idea, you save it, and then maybe you come back to it later, or maybe you get a good idea and you go, "That's really cool, but that's not what we're looking for. Okay, let's try something new." You know, basically taking the advance money for the record and actually spending it on the record. […] and I don't want to be in a situation again where I have to depend on other people and have [to] start all over. So we have material that we think is too advanced for old Guns fans to hear right now and they would completely hate, because we were exploring the use of computers [along with] everybody really playing their ass off and combining that, but trying to push the envelope a bit. It's like, "Hmm, I have to push the envelope a little too far. We'll wait on that." So we got a list of things.


Axl would also indicate that the substantial costs of making the record wouldn't be so bad if they got two albums out of it [Rolling Stone, January 2000].

So the plan was to let the first record be more guitar-driven while the second would contain more aggressive electronica:

It took working on the majority of these things and at least the couple albums' [worth] of material to figure out what should be on the first official Guns album. I wouldn't say it's like, you know, that we recorded a double album, or that we have all of our scraps to be the second one. There is a distinct difference in sound. The second leans probably a little more to aggressive electronica with full guitars, where the first one is definitely more guitar-based.

I'd like to take some of the old Guns fans along with me gradually into the twenty-first century.
Rolling Stone, February 3, 2000; interview from November 1999
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