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Post by Soulmonster on Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:19 am

So allegedly someone got 15 CDs of 2000 mixes of GN'R songs out of a locker that had belonged to Tom Zutaut. Most of it is likely to be instrumentals, but there is also supposed to be some songs with lyrics. Together with this story some new leaks have emerged. A longer clip of Checkmate/Jackie Chan which includes what I suppose is the chorus, back then named Hard School. And a clip of Atlas. There is also a 2017 rehearsal of Sweet Child O' Mine floating about, but how that is connected to the alleged locker cache, is not understood by me.


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Post by Blackstar on Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:13 am

I don't think the 2017 rehearsal is related to the CD era leak. It seems like a coincidence and it's been brought up just as something that is out there too.
And from I read on myngnr, it's been around for some time, but most people didn't take notice of it.
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Post by Uli on Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:56 pm

"Leaks" - now that word is a "blast from the past"! Surprised

I do remember them well, those times when a new leak was a sensation (first one I ever got to hear was "IRS" in 2005, then there were more 2006-7)!

Someone got into big trouble with the FBI back then, from what I heard. Now I wonder: will Tom Zutaut or whoever got/bought his old stuff, get into trouble for this?

In any way, I'm looking forward to a "CD re-release" with 15 discs of demo versions and stuff. Very Happy Crazy
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Post by Soulmonster on Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:50 am

Just posted this at mygnrforum where people are slowly letting frustration get the better of them:

myself! wrote:Calm down people.

If the guy intended to leak anything it would just make sense to publicly act like he wouldn't.

We also don't know to what extent the band/label/management has tried to prevent him from leaking any material. This is all rumors that tend to be exaggerated and then taken as gospel around these parts of the internet.
Then, if they really did try to prevent leaks, and they succeeded, then it is not unlikely this is due to the band expecting to release some of this material in the future. A new record with the current lineup is likely, in my opinion, to at least partly be based off songs from the CD sessions. If that happens, then I hope Axl will see fit to release also the old versions of these songs in a future box-set, with a few versions per song so people could see how they have evolved (Freese, Brain, pre-Bucket, Bucket, Slash, etc).

Anyway, calm down. The guy might still leak in the shadows, or someone else might. Or nothing happens now and at the very least we got to hear a little bit more of what we likely have in store for the future.
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Post by Soulmonster on Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:48 pm

Finally the entire Hard School leaked. I love it. Especially the fake ending. Eargasm.
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Post by Blackstar on Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:19 pm

@Soulmonster wrote:Finally the entire Hard School leaked. I love it. Especially the fake ending. Eargasm.

I think with Slash's guitar it would be a total GN'R classic, but it's pretty good as it is, too.
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Post by Soulmonster on Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:23 pm

@Blackstar wrote:
@Soulmonster wrote:Finally the entire Hard School leaked. I love it. Especially the fake ending. Eargasm.

I think with Slash's guitar it would be a total GN'R classic, but it's pretty good as it is, too.

In my opinion it is one of the best songs I have heard from the CD era. Maybe top 3? Makes one wonder what else what saved for the follow-up.

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Post by Soulmonster on Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:54 am

Massive leak tonight. Seems like '99 versions of songs we have from before. No new songs. No Atlas. At least yet.

Where are all the new songs that we heard about from the locker CD?
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Post by Blackstar on Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:58 am

It seems that the leaks are from different sources, with the majority of them likely being from the storage locker CDs (based on the duration and the metadata of the tracks).
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Post by Misfit79 on Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:43 pm

Ive really fallen in love with ‘Hard School.’ I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve listened to it since it leaked, this song is so good. It really has that GnR sound to it, if it had Slash I feel it would be a classic - but I am getting a lot of enjoyment from it as it is.

Hopefully we get to hear some more new tracks soon.
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Post by Soulmonster on Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:27 pm

@Misfit79 wrote:Ive really fallen in love with ‘Hard School.’ I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve listened to it since it leaked, this song is so good. It really has that GnR sound to it, if it had Slash I feel it would be a classic - but I am getting a lot of enjoyment from it as it is.

Hopefully we get to hear some more new tracks soon.

Couldn't agree more Smile I have listened to it more than most of CD songs combined Very Happy
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Post by Soulmonster on Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:08 am

So Perhaps and State of Grace leaked today.

We now have full versions of Hardschool, Atlas Shrugged (although something may be missing from this version), Perhaps and State of Grace. Four entirely new songs. Quite amazing.

And personally I think all of them are so good they could have replaced some songs on CD and made a better album. Fucking amazing.
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Post by Soulmonster on Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:01 am

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Post by Misfit79 on Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:16 pm

I really love these new songs - I have put them all together with OMG and even Silkworms so I have a sort of new mini album Smile

I think Perhaps is my favourite (at the moment) I wonder if it is Axl on the piano or Dizzy?
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Post by Blackstar on Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:38 pm

I love the songs too. State of Grace is stuck in my head Smile

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Two new leaks today, instrumentals:

- Three Dollar Pyramid (early version of Better)

- As It Began (piano based instrumental). Sounds beautiful. It may have been written in the UYI era.
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Post by Soulmonster on Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:04 pm

As it Begins reminds me of Smashing Pumpkins.
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Post by Soulmonster on Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:36 pm

Yet another leak, Eye on You. And Quicksong is rumoured to be next,
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Post by Soulmonster on Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:29 pm

Ranking the leaks:

1. State of Grace
2. Hardschool
3. Eye on You
4. Atlas Shrugged
5. Perhaps
6. As it Began
7. Silkworks

As It Began is beautiful, but needs vocals and less whales. Atlas still feels tampered with and that the complete version would possibly come higher on the list.

The acoustic Knockin' is nice, but I get distracted by the frenetic drumming and it feels more like an impromptu jam than a demo. Silkworms is interesting but not something I would listen to.

State of Grace tops the list, I am awed by that song and Axl's performance in the second half.
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Post by Soulmonster on Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:31 pm

Interestingly enough, I still find these leaks to on average be better than the songs on CD. Makes me giddy to hear more.
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Post by Soulmonster on Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:40 am

A whole CD leaked:

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Quick Song Zodiac are without vocals.
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Post by Soulmonster on Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:29 pm

A few new leaks, Knockin' acoustic with Axl's vocals (I think it is the one we have), Knocking electric without Axl, Knockin acoustic without Axl, Welcome to the Jungle without Axl.
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Post by Soulmonster on Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:45 pm

All covers in one image file. Tomorrow I will post a version where I have lined out the songs/tracks that have been leaked.

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Post by Soulmonster on Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:47 pm

The leaks today was one complete CD. The one titled "Knockin'/Jungle". So now we have received two complete discs. Wonder if the leakers cant bother with single tracks anymore and that is the reason we are getting entire discs now...
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Post by Blackstar on Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:17 am

A third CD has leaked, the "Robin/Tommy demos" one:

1. Inside Out
2. 3 Dollar Pyramid
3. Tommy Demo #1
4. Tommy Demo #2

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Post by Blackstar on Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:31 am

One more leak:

"Me and My Elvis" (instrumental)

It's the one that is believed to be "Soulmonster" Smile
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Post by Soulmonster on Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:02 am

It wasn't my best idea. I am missing a few due to uncertainties. Anyway, an attempt at a visualization. A LOT of the contents have now been leaked:

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Post by Soulmonster on Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:16 am

Is there any agreement on what the name of Tommy demo #3 is?
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Post by Blackstar on Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:36 am

@Soulmonster wrote:Is there any agreement on what the name of Tommy demo #3 is?

Do you mean demo #1?

No. There's been some speculation that it could be "Motormouth" based on an old Fortus interview (?) but it was one of the titles Axl had confirmed as fake in 2008.
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Post by Soulmonster on Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:54 am

@Blackstar wrote:
@Soulmonster wrote:Is there any agreement on what the name of Tommy demo #3 is?


Do you mean demo #1?

No. There's been some speculation that it could be "Motormouth" based on an old Fortus interview (?) but it was one of the titles Axl had confirmed as fake in 2008.

Yeah, I meant track no. 3 which is his first song. I will just call it demo #1 then.
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Post by Blackstar on Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:48 pm

Three more CDs have leaked.

"Chinese Democracy: New Brain Drums (3rd Time)"

1. Drums and Guitars at Regular Level
2. Drums up 1 dB
3. Drums up 2 dB
4. Guitars up 2.5 dB, Drums at Regular Level
5. Guitars up 1.5 dB
6. Guitars up 0.7 dB
7. Instrumental with Drums and Guitars at Regular Level

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"Madagascar: Rough Mixes of New Brain Drum Takes"

1. With Vocals
2. Instrumental

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"Atlas Shrugged: New Brain Drums"

1. Drums at Regular Level
2. Drums up 1.5 Db
3. Drums down 1.5 Db

(Tracks 1 & 2 had already leaked)
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