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Post by Soulmonster on Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:05 am

I don't think anybody will understand [Guns N' Roses]. […] Everybody likes to make assumptions, people like to make up all these stories […]. It's never accurate. So it's made up like they're talking about somebody else altogether. The only thing you can go on is what's actually printed correctly in the press, quotes that are actually accurate, which isn't too often, anyway [VOX, January 1991].
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This section will present the history of Guns N' Roses, from its beginning in 1985 to today. Although all posts are by me, I wouldn't have been able to do this without the massive help from @Blackstar who corrects my mistake and has done an awesome job adding to our interview archive Smile

Each post in the thread will deal with a time-period, and the posts will be cross-referenced to the interview and article databases. We will aim to avoid unsubstantiated rumours and myths, and instead focus on what is actually known about the period based on biographies, interviews, articles, etc, and focus on primary sources with direct quotes from band members and those who were there, over anything else. In those cases where the sources disagree, we will aim to present every side to the story.

We welcome anyone with first-person account of the band to voice their opinion, especially if they disagree with the story as it is told. There is no agenda behind this work, besides trying to present an objective account of the history of the band.

The section is currently under development. Each post will be improved as new sources are consulted. I am doing this chronologically, and the sources that have so far been included is displayed here: http://www.a-4-d.com/t2861-interview-and-article-index . As new interviews and sources are made available, the thread will be updated. As such, it is a living document that can be adjusted and revised at any time as new stories and quotes emerge.

Hopefully, in the end, this will be the most comprehensive source to the history of the band, and will supplement the other sections of this site. It will be the go-to site to delve into any particular chapter in the story of GN'R. And the according comprehensive database of articles and interviews will be valuable to anyone who writes their own story of the band.


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INDEX

OCTOBER 1984-MARCH 1985 - THE VERY BEGINNING
Chapter 1: OCTOBER 1984-MARCH 1985 - GUNS N' ROSES IS FORMED.
Chapter 2: AXL, BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES - EARLY LIFE IN INDIANA.
Chapter 3: AXL, BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES - MUSICAL INTERESTS.
Chapter 4: AXL, BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES - AT SCHOOL AND EARLY REBELLION.
Chapter 5: AXL, BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES - FRIENDS IN INDIANA AND FIRST BANDS.
Chapter 6: AXL, BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES - BECOMING AXL ROSE.
Chapter 7: AXL, BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES - LEAVING INDIANA.
Chapter 8: AXL, BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES - 'HOLLYWOOD ROSE' AND OTHER EARLY L.A. BANDS.
Chapter 9: TRACII, BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES.
Chapter 10: IZZY STRADLIN - BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES.
Chapter 11: MARCH 1985 - DUFF REPLACES OLE.
Chapter 12: DUFF, BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES.
Chapter 13: APRIL-MAY 1985 - TRACII AND ROB LEAVES.


JUNE-DECEMBER 1985 - THE CLASSICAL LINEUP IS FORMED AND PLAYS IN HOLLYWOOD
Chapter 14: JUNE 1985 - SLASH AND STEVEN JOINS, FORMATION OF THE CLASSIC LINEUP.
Chapter 15: JUNE 1985 - 'THE HELL TOUR'.
Chapter 16: JULY 1985 - THE RIGHT GUYS.
Chapter 17: SLASH, BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES.
Chapter 18: STEVEN, BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES.
Chapter 19: 'ROADCREW' AND OTHER EARLY BANDS OF SLASH.
Chapter 20: AUGUST 1985-JANUARY 1986 - EARLY SHOWS, LOCAL FAME.
Chapter 21: WORKING FOR SUCCESS.
Chapter 22: GUNS N' ROSES AND POISON.
Chapter 23: REHEARSALS AND LIVING QUARTERS.
Chapter 24: DRUGS AND BOOZE.
Chapter 25: IMAGE AND BRANDING.


JANUARY-DECEMBER 1986 - GETTING SIGNED TO GEFFEN AND RELEASING 'LIVE!? LIKE A SUICIDE'
Chapter 26: JANUARY-MARCH 1986 - INTEREST FROM RECORD LABELS.
Chapter 27: MARCH 26, 1986 - SIGNING WITH GEFFEN RECORDS.
Chapter 28: AXL'S VOLATILE NATURE IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THE BAND.
Chapter 29: OUT TA GET ME! - DEALINGS WITH THE POLICE.
Chapter 30: EARLY MANAGEMENT (RAZ CUE, VICKY HAMILTON, ARNOLD STIEFEL).
Chapter 31: THE FALLOUT WITH VICKY HAMILTON.
Chapter 32: MARCH 1986 - 'FARGIN BASTYDGES'.
Chapter 33: FROM RAGS TO RICHES AND BACK AGAIN.
Chapter 34: JUNE-SEPTEMBER 1986 - LIGHTING UP THE HOLLYWOOD CLUB CIRCUIT.
Chapter 35: THE HELL HOUSE.
Chapter 36: WEST ARKEEN.
Chapter 37: OCTOBER 21-DECEMBER 23, 1986 - AXL IS GONE AND OTHER INCIDENTS.
Chapter 38: MARCH-DECEMBER 1986 - GEFFEN ALMOST DROPS THE BAND.
Chapter 39: 1986-1990 - THE 'DRUNK FUX' AND OTHER SIDEBANDS AND COLLABORATIONS.
Chapter 40: SPLITTING THE LOOT.
Chapter 41: MAY-DECEMBER 1986 - LOOKING FOR A PRODUCER.
Chapter 42: DECEMBER 1986 - THE BAND RELEASES 'LIVE!? LIKE A SUICIDE'.


JANUARY 1987-OCTOBER 1988 - TOURING, THE RELEASE OF 'APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION', AND MORE TOURING
Chapter 43: DECEMBER 1986 - ALAN NIVEN BECOMES THE BAND'S MANAGER.
Chapter 44: FINALLY THE BAND FINDS MIKE CLINK.
Chapter 45: 1987-1988 - WHO IS THE BOSS?
Chapter 46: 1987 - RECORDING THEIR DEBUT ALBUM.
Chapter 47: JUNE 1987 - THE BAND TRAVELS TO ENGLAND.
Chapter 48: AXL: THE KILLER OF SMALL DOGS.
Chapter 49: 1987 - CANCELLED TOURS.
Chapter 50: JULY 1987 - THE DEATH OF TODD CREW.
Chapter 51: JULY 21, 1987 - THE RELEASE OF 'APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION'.
Chapter 52: 'APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION' - ARTWORK CONTROVERSY.
Chapter 53: AUGUST-SEPTEMBER 1987 - OPENING FOR 'THE CULT'.
Chapter 54: 'APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION'- LYRICAL CONTENT CONTROVERSY.
Chapter 55: SEPTEMBER-OCTOBER 1987 - HEADLINING IN EUROPE AND USA.
Chapter 56: THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THINGS.
Chapter 57: NOVEMBER 3-29 1987 - OPENING FOR MÖTLEY CRÜE.
Chapter 58: NOVEMBER 22, 1987 - THE OMNI, ATLANTA, AXL GETS ARRESTED.
Chapter 59: SINGLES AND MUSIC VIDEOS FROM 'APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION'.
Chapter 60: DECEMBER 1987 - OPENING FOR ALICE COOPER.
Chapter 61: ARTISTIC SACRIFICES.
Chapter 62: DECEMBER 1987 - STEVEN BREAKS HIS HAND AND FRED COURY STEPS IN.
Chapter 63: DECEMBER 18, 1987 - "BON JOVI CAN SUCK MY DICK".
Chapter 64: THE ESCALATION OF BAD HABITS.
Chapter 65: DECEMBER 1987-FEBRUARY 1988 - INDIVIDUAL SHOWS INCLUDING AT THE PERKINS PALACE.
Chapter 66: JULY 1987-AUGUST 1988 - A SLOW BURNER TURNING INTO A RAGING BONFIRE.
Chapter 67: JANUARY 31, 1988 - THE LIMELIGHT.
Chapter 68: FEBRUARY 2, 1988 - "WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE, RITZ!!"
Chapter 69: FEBRUARY 1988 - TOURING WIHT 'TSOL' AND AXL IS FIRED FROM THE BAND.
Chapter 70: AXL'S MENTAL ISSUES.
Chapter 71: DOUG GOLDSTEIN, TOUR MANAGER.
Chapter 72: THE MAKING OF 'GN'R LIES'.
Chapter 73: FEBRUARY 1988 - LOSING THE DAVID LEE ROTH TOUR AND PLAYING ON 'UNDER THE WHEELS' WITH ALICE COOPER.
Chapter 74: PROFESSIONAL CREW.
Chapter 75: APRIL 26-MAY 11, 1988 - LOST TOURS WITH AC/DC AND MONSTERS OF ROCK AND US TOUR WITH ZODIAC MINDWARP & THE LOVE REACTION AND UDO.
Chapter 77: MAY 13-JUNE 8, 1988 - OPENING FOR IRON MAIDEN.
Chapter 78: JULY 1988 - 'THE DEAD POOL'.
Chapter 79: JULY 17-SEPTEMBER 15, 1988 - OPENING FOR THE AEROSMITH.
Chapter 80: AUGUST 20, 1988 - TRAGEDY STRIKES AT MONSTERS OF ROCK.
Chapter 81: 1986-1988 - DEALING WITH THE PRESS IN THE BAND'S EARLY YEARS.
Chapter 82: SEPTEMBER 17, 1988 - TEXAS STADIUM.
Chapter 83: EXPLAINING THE SUCCESS OF 'APPETITE'.


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Post by Soulmonster on Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:17 am

NOVEMBER 1988-OCTOBER 1989 - THE RELEASE OF 'LIES' AND THINGS FALL APART
Chapter 84: NOVEMBER 29, 1988 - THE RELEASE OF 'GN'R LIES'.
Chapter 85: SUCCESS - THE GOOD STUFF.
Chapter 86: SUCCESS - THE BAD STUFF.
Chapter 87: 'PATIENCE', THE ONLY SINGLE AND MUSIC VIDEO FROM 'LIES'.
Chapter 88: DECEMBER 1988 - TOURING JAPAN, AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND.
Chapter 89: FROM RAGS TO RICHES.
Chapter 90: THE 'ONE IN A MILLION' CONTROVERSY - RACISM.
Chapter 91: THE ONE IN A MILLION CONTROVERSY - HOMOPHOBIA.
Chapter 92: 1989 - THINGS FALL APART, PART I: DRUGS & BOOZE.
Chapter 93: 1989-1990 - THINGS FALL APART, PART II: BAND OF BROTHERS NO MORE.
Chapter 94: 1987-MAY 1989 - PLANNING THE FOLLOW-UP TO 'APPETITE'.
Chapter 95: SUMMER OF 1989 - TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE IN CHICAGO.
Chapter 96: JULY 22, 1989 - THE SCRAP CLUB AND JAMMING WITH THE CULT.
Chapter 97: AUGUST 27, 1989 - IZZY TAKES A PEE AND GETS ARRESTED.
Chapter 98: AUGUST-DECEMBER 1989 - PLANNING THE FOLLOW-UP TO 'APPETITE'.
Chapter 99: 1989-1990 - AXL'S PERSONAL ISSUES.
Chapter 100: 1989-1990 - RUN-INS WITH THE LAW.
Chapter 101: AXL'S PERFECTIONISM.
Chapter 102: 1989-1991 - THE PRESS II.
Chapter 103: SEPTEMBER 6, 1989 - IZZY AND VINCE NEIL AT THE MTV VIDEO MUSIC AWARDS.
Chapter 104: OCTOBER 10, 1989 - RECORDING THE VIDEO FOR 'IT'S SO EASY', AXL BEFRIENDS DAVID BOWIE.
Chapter 105: THE ROLLING STONES WANT GUNS N' ROSES.
Chapter 106: BRANDING II.
Chapter 107: OCTOBER 18-22, 1989 - "DANCING WITH MR. BROWNSTONE".
Chapter 108: "WE WERE NEVER ANY GOOD WITH COMMUNICATION".


NOVEMBER 1989-MAY 1991 - MATT REPLACES STEVEN, DIZZY JOINS, AND THE BAND TRIES TO MAKE MUSIC
Chapter 105: OCTOBER 1989-MARCH 1990 - SLASH AND IZZY SOBER UP.
Chapter 106: 1989-1991 - RELATIONSHIP ISSUES.
Chapter 107: LAWSUITS.
Chapter 108: NOVEMBER 1989-1991 - AXL'S FEUD WITH VINCE NEIL.
Chapter 109: DECEMBER 1989-MARCH 1990 - THE MAKING OF THE FOLLOW-UP.
Chapter 110: GEFFEN RECORDS GROWS IMPATIENT.
Chapter 111: JANUARY 22, 1990 - DRUNKS AT THE AMERICAN MUSIC AWARDS.
Chapter 112: MARCH 1990 - GEFFEN RECORDS IS ACQUIRED BY MCA INC..
Chapter 113: MARCH 1990 - DIZZY JOINS THE BAND.
Chapter 114: DIZZY BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES.
Chapter 115: EARLY 1990 (?) - THE STEVEN AND ERIN DRUG CONTROVERSY.
Chapter 116: APRIL 1990 - STEVEN IS PUT ON PROBATION.
Chapter 117: APRIL 7, 1990 - THE FARM AID CONCERT.
Chapter 118: APRIL 1990 - STEVEN IS FIRED.
Chapter 119: MARCH-APRIL 1990 - WORK ON THE FOLLOW-UP GRINDS TO A HALT, AGAIN.
Chapter 120: APRIL 1990 - MATT JOINS THE BAND.
Chapter 121: MATT BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES.
Chapter 122: APRIL-DECEMBER 1990 - THE BAND ENTERS A PRODUCTIVE PHASE AND 'USE YOUR ILLUSION' IS NAMED.
Chapter 123: JUNE 1990 - 'KNOCKIN' ON HEAVEN'S DOOR' AND 'DAYS OF THUNDER'.
Chapter 124: JULY 1990 - 'CIVIL WAR' AND THE NOBODY'S CHILD CHARITY ALBUM.
Chapter 125: OCTOBER 30, 1990 - RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO HELL.
Chapter 126: PLANNING THE 'USE YOUR ILLUSION' TOUR.
Chapter 127: JANUARY 20-23, 1991 - ROCK IN RIO.
Chapter 128: FEBRUARY 1991 - AXL SEEKS THERAPY.
Chapter 129: MARCH-AUGUST 1991 - THE INFAMOUS MEDIA CONTRACT.
Chapter 130: AXL AND SEBASTIAN BACH.
Chapter 131: JANUARY-JULY 1991 - ADDING VOCALS AND MIXING ISSUES FOR 'USE YOUR ILLUSION'.
Chapter 132: 1989-1992 - COLLABORATIONS.
Chapter 133: 1990-1992 - AXL'S FEUD WITH MICK WALL.
Chapter 134: APRIL 1991 - ALAN NIVEN IS FIRED AND DOUG GOLDSTEIN TAKES OVER.
Chapter 135: 1991-1992 - PERSONAL LIVES.
Chapter 136: 1990-1992 - SLASH AND MICHAEL JACKSON.
Chapter 137: APRIL-MAY 1991 - PREPARING FOR TOURING.


MAY-DECEMBER 1991 - GILBY REPLACES IZZY, 'USE YOUR ILLUSIONS' IS RELEASED, AND TOURING CONTROVERSIES
Chapter 138: MAINTAINING AXL'S VOICE.
Chapter 139: MAY 11-16, 1991 - WARM-UP GIGS.
Chapter 140: MAY 24-JUNE 30, 1991 - TOURING USE YOUR ILLUSION, NORTH AMERICA.
Chapter 141: JULY 2, 1991 - RIOT IN ST. LOUIS.
Chapter 142: LAWSUIT BONANZA.
Chapter 143: JULY 19, 1991 - STEVEN SUES THE BAND.
Chapter 144: JULY 8-AUGUST 3, 1991 - TOURING USE YOUR ILLUSION, NORTH AMERICA, PT. II.
Chapter 145: 1991-1993 - THE LATE CONCERT STARTS.
Chapter 146: 1989-1992 - THE MAKING OF A PUNK EP.
Chapter 147: 1991-1993 - DRUGS AND BOOZE AGAIN.
Chapter 148: TITLE AND ARTWORK FOR THE UPCOMING ALBUM.
Chapter 149: 1991-1992 - AXL AND SLASH.
Chapter 150: AUGUST 13-31 - TOURING 'USE YOUR ILLUSION', FIRST EUROPEAN LEG.
Chapter 151: SEPTEMBER 1991-NOVEMBER 1992 - AXL OPENS UP ABOUT CHILDHOOD ABUSE.
Chapter 152: SEPTEMBER 1991, "FUCK ST. LOUIS".
Chapter 153: SEPTEMBER 17, 1991 - THE RELEASE OF 'USE YOUR ILLUSION I' & 'USE YOUR ILLUSION II'.
Chapter 154: IZZY IS OUT! OR IS HE?
Chapter 155: 'USE YOUR ILLUSION I & II' - WHY THEY RELEASED TWO RECORDS.
Chapter 156: 'USE YOUR ILLUSION I & II' - LOOKING BACK AT THE ALBUMS AND THEIR MAKING.
Chapter 157: JUNE 1991-JANUARY 1994 - SINGLES FROM THE 'USE YOUR ILLUSIONS'.
Chapter 158: STEVEN, AFTER GUNS N' ROSES.
Chapter 159: 1991-1993 - AXL STEPS UP AND TAKES CONTROL.
Chapter 160: NOVEMBER 1991 - IT IS CONFIRMED: IZZY IS OUT.
Chapter 161: WHY IZZY LEFT.
Chapter 162: GILBY JOINS THE BAND.
Chapter 163: GILBY BEFORE GUNS N' ROSES.
Chapter 164: NOVEMBER 1991-1994 - IZZY AND GUNS N' ROSES AFTER THE SPLIT.
Chapter 165: OBTAINING A MORE MATURE PERSPECTIVE.
Chapter 166: SOCIALLY AWARE BAND MEMBERS BUT NOT A POLITICAL BAND.


DECEMBER 1991-1992 - THE BAND GETS BIGGER, TOURING WITH METALLICA
Chapter 167: A BIGGER BAND.
Chapter 168: DECEMBER 5, 1991-FEBRUARY 1, 1992 - TOURING 'USE YOUR ILLUSION', NORTH AMERICA.
Chapter 169: MERCHANDISE AND SPONSORING.
Chapter 170: FEBRUARY 19-22, 1992 - TOURING 'USE YOUR ILLUSION', JAPAN.
Chapter 171: APRIL 1-9, 1992 - TOURING 'USE YOUR ILLUSION', "MAKE-UP" DATES.
Chapter 172: MATERIAL WEALTH.
Chapter 173: APRIL 20, 1992 - THE FREDDIE MERCURY BENEFIT CONCERT.
Chapter 174: THE BAND MEMBERS ON PLAYING MUSIC TOGETHER.
Chapter 175: 1991-1995 - PROFESSIONAL CREW II.
Chapter 176: PARTNERS, BAND MEMBERS, OR SESSION MUSICIANS?
Chapter 177: ACCUSATIONS OF SEXISM AND MISOGYNY.
Chapter 178: MAY 16-JUNE 3, 1992 - TOURING 'USE YOUR ILLUSION', EUROPE.
Chapter 179: JUNE 6, 1992 - PLAYING PARIS WITH FRIENDS.
Chapter 180: JUNE 13-JULY 2, 1992 - TOURING 'USE YOUR ILLUSION', EUROPE.
Chapter 181: AXL'S STAGE FRIGHT AND WORKING WITH AUDIENCES.
Chapter 182: GROUPIES.
Chapter 183: GEAR.
Chapter 184: DECEMBER 1991-JULY 1992, PLANNING TO TOUR WITH METALLICA.
Chapter 185: JULY 12, 1992 - AXL IS FINALLY ARRESTED.
Chapter 186: JULY 17-29, 1992 - TOURING WITH METALLICA.
Chapter 187: GOING SOLO?
Chapter 188: THE F@*!ING VIDEOS.
Chapter 189: 1991-1992 - SLASH AND BLACK DEATH VODKA.
Chapter 190: IZZY, AFTER GUNS N' ROSES.
Chapter 191: 1991-1993 - BAND OF BROTHERS NO MORE II.
Chapter 192: 1991-1993 - THE LOST DOCUMENTARY.
Chapter 193: THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THINGS II.
Chapter 194: AUGUST 8, 1992 - RIOT IN MONTREAL.
Chapter 195: AUGUST 25-SEPTEMBER 17, 1992 - TOURING WITH METALLICA.
Chapter 196: SEPTEMBER 9, 1992 - THE MTV VMA - THE FEUD WITH NIRVANA PEAKS AND AXL PLAYS WITH ELTON JOHN.
Chapter 197: GUNS N' ROSES AND FAITH NO MORE.
Chapter 198: SEPTEMBER 19, 1992 - ALMOST A RIOT AT 'MILE HIGH STADIUM' IN DENVER.
Chapter 199: SEPTEMBER 24-OCTOBER 6, 1992 - TOURING WITH METALLICA.
Chapter 200: NOVEMBER 1992 - AXL SETTLES OUT OF COURT.
Chapter 201: AXL'S SPIRITUALITY AND ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE.
Chapter 202: NOVEMBER 25, 1992 - ESCAPING A COUP IN VENEZUELA.
Chapter 203: NOVEMBER 29, 1992 - TROUBLE IN COLOMBIA.
Chapter 204: DECEMBER 2, 1992 - BEING LATE IN CHILE.
Chapter 205: DECEMBER 5-6, 1992 - NAZIS IN ARGENTINA.
Chapter 206: DECEMBER 10-13, 1992 - TOURING 'USE YOUR ILLUSIONS', SOUTH AMERICAN LEG - BRAZIL.
Chapter 207: JANUARY-FEBRUARY 1993 - TOURING JAPAN AND OCEANIA.


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1993 - THE SKIN N' BONES TOUR
Chapter 208: HOW THE BAND MEMBERS DEALT WITH AXL DURING THE 'USE YOUR ILLUSION' TOURING.
Chapter 209: PRE-SHOW ROUTINES.
Chapter 210: 1991-1993 - PLANNING THE FOLLOW-UP TO THE 'ILLUSIONS'.
Chapter 211: 1992-1993 - PLANNING THE 'SKIN AND BONES' TOUR.

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