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Post by FromHell on Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:19 am

“They’ll teach you to read n’ write up there.  But the rest won’t be so good.  Them boys, they can be hard on a Gimp.”

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Post by FromHell on Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:53 pm

Slow on the uptake, a-4-d.com.  Tracking the published word is supposed to be your thing.  Am I right, or am I right?

If TMZ tracked the averments, I’ve full faith that you can, too.

Slash’s income and expenditures detail the UMG (Geffen) advance.  The recordings, as the ingenious Mr. Niven detailed, then do exist.  Re said advances, presumably, we all know now are not payment but a recoupable, just as we know that Ms. Warner managed NITL and not the World's MVP (Most Villainous Pianist) live-ins.

To a (seeming) unrelated matter:  the AC/DC munchkin required the World's MVP to thrice engage the media as a caveat to be the temp, for-hire singer in the World’s ultimate cock rock band some three years ago. This includes the ‘China Exchange,’ if china is an actual place.  And, not incidentally, I’ve seen grapefruits smaller than the singer's dialuted pupils at said “exchange,” at the south-of-America propaganda fest with Dough Mercenary, and even on-stage.

Yet, we have this festering cesspool about Adler's “sobriety.”

Convenient as a match to kindling.
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Post by FromHell on Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:05 am

Docketed at 30GF-295538 before the United States Trial and Appeal Board, Opposer counsel filed the below Notice of Opposition on March 26, 2019.

ForumLand has got some friction for my red phosphorous, after all.  My repeated reference to the publicly-available legal docs forming the basis of my substantive posts, and now I’ve the freshest (or nearly so) doc cited supra open in my browser?  And said doc tracked by one ForumLander and forwarded to me by another?  Dayum.  You done good, ForumLand.  Parts, anyhow.

Rumor has it that this very doc is likewise referenced at Corporal Upham’s greased, yellow joint.  Or stairwell, if you prefer.  A brief review of that thread, however, proves it to be confused and uninspired.  Said thread lurches with some promise referencing the Partners, then devolves into a directionless still of two geriatrics staring at one another over a fetid hospital pan, each wondering who will die first.

Acting upon my carefully constructed substantive posts puts hair on your chest.  It’s unclear to me, though, the specific (anonymous) user who took on my challenge, focused on the target through the voluminous and censorious bullshit and myth of ForumLand, and spent a couple of hours and bucks (or less) to hook the Notice of Opposition.  It’s not clear to me because it wasn’t apparent to the trusted person who forwarded it to me.  And I confess that I don’t read my correspondence in this corner of the world in a timely manner, if at all.

In light of the below (I expect at least a reacharound for the quick turnaround on the concise snipping and highlighting—mind you, I just read this tonight and not a few weeks ago when sent), some of yinz’ll need to reread my substantive posts in the present thread predating (by months) said Notice of Opposition.

Others, I’ve no doubt, will be BANNED en masse (that’s french for go fuck yourself, Gimp) in the festering few, seedy, sewage flowing as an open-cesspool corners of PropagandaLand by the villainous Ralph Truth Censoring Bro and his canadian (if that is an actual place) handler simply for replying to their continuous, unending power wannabe propaganda about the singer (and his live-ins) with a simple:

“But it ain’t true, 30GF-295538 irrefutably proves what @FromHell and @justanurchin say:  it is a continuing Partnership, those three Remaining Partners own the Gn’R assets (the Brink’s truck of the back catalogue) and all THREE (more on that later, as I had distinguished between the service and other marks) marks, there are no (and never were any) splits, there are no (and never were any—as if we hadn’t realized that all Slash and DoughMounts do is yack, yack, yack in the media) “gag orders” er, I mean, “NDAs” and on and on.  And on.

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Post by FromHell on Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:02 am

Partial though I may be, I’m pulling for a-4-d.com to produce the remaining, recent and relevant public docs referenced throughout this thread.  They “put the lotion…,” I mean, are archivists.  So, I’m rooting for their archivist strengths to pull through and “break” the story.  I mean, Rolling Stone, after all, or at least one of their “writers,” needs someone new to plagiarize.

Why partial?  One, @soulmonster is hosting this bonanza of revelatory truth—even if some, or perhaps most, of it produces dissonance and discomfort to him individually.  He has done so without censoring a solitary line that I’ve posted—each and every word and link that I’ve posted is as-written and reposted.  Two, he’s earned my respect, even if his actual name sounds like something that I might mutter when I stub my toe.  I kid about his actual name (sort of, anyhow).

These docs, as I’ve intimated, aren’t magic, “classified” or unattainable by you, ForumLand.  TMZ ain’t the Wizard of Oz—it simply pays a few bucks to traverse the Los Angeles County docketing page.  Slash’s expenditures and assets filings line-item the recording advances.  What, is he advancing fungible assets to himself under his own label?  Said advances, by contract law, are recoupable. They, moreover, paint you the picture of what you—as in the plural—want to know.  I cannot, and will not, cite any matter not accessible to the public.  Or, rely upon it in any of my substantive posts, anyway, as I figure how to fill in the blanks on the “dilemma” noted in a prior post re Vivendi/UMG.  There are more than a few ins than outs than I’d previously anticipated.
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Post by Blackstar on Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:04 am

"Forumland" has discovered the Trademark Office documents since  years.
And it takes much less than two hours - namely, about 10 seconds or 3 clicks and zero bucks to find and access the documents, including this particular one which doesn't reveal anything than what we already know:
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/caseviewer/pdf?caseId=88062803&docIndex=2&searchprefix=sn#docIndex=2

And Slash has another band re: future recordings.

Anyway, I'm not interested in whatever else the thread is supposed to be about or in speculative "facts" about the band interspersed (incoherently) with videos, and I can continue ignoring it as I have for the most part.  But I don't like seeing distasteful digs at other forums, their admins and their members.
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Post by FromHell on Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:33 am

@Blackstar wrote:"Forumland" has discovered the Trademark Office documents since  years.
And it takes much less than two hours - namely, about 10 seconds or 3 clicks and zero bucks to find and access the documents, including this particular one which doesn't reveal anything than what we already know:
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/caseviewer/pdf?caseId=88062803&docIndex=2&searchprefix=sn#docIndex=2

And Slash has another band re: future recordings.

Anyway, I'm not interested in whatever else the thread is supposed to be about or in speculative "facts" about the band  interspersed (incoherently) with videos, and I can continue ignoring it as I have for the most part.  But I don't like seeing distasteful digs at other forums, their admins and their members.

Digs? When one finds herself in a hole, it advisable to stop. It is the first, and only, law of holes.

Are you claiming that Slash, as noted in my prior post ("What, is he advancing fungible assets to himself under his own label?") is advancing himself recoupables? Are you likewise claiming that recoupables and AARs are dispersed for "future recordings," whatever that may be? Do explain.

“Three clicks” and whatnot reads as semi-coherent, and is demonstrably false. Unless, that is, you are publicly claiming dibs on monitoring the United States Trademark Trial and Appeal Board docketing site. Is that your claim?

My recollection is that your sole prior contribution to the present thread was a failed attempt to advance a conspiratorial concoction that the World’s MVP (Most Villainous Pianist) somehow bullied, wrangled or otherwise magically defied a basic premise of American contract law: that the entity paying for sound recordings somehow does not own the Master Rights to the table scraps, if any, from the commercial and public debacle of the singer’s solo band.

Speculation. It’s an interesting choice of verbiage.

There are but two individuals who’ve de-bullshitted and de-mythed ForumLand since 2016. They’ve both been heavily plagiarized, censored and “BANNED” within and without ForumLand. Please do name for me the two, and only two, individuals who first raised the irrefutable fact that "Guns n' Roses" is an uninterrupted, continuing Partnership since 1992 and who have hammered that point ad nauseum.

Said Partnership contains three Remaining, Original Partners. I gather from my clipped and highlighted prior post containing the Notice of Opposition filed less than a month ago that you will not dispute this, despite participating in (and advancing threads) that the singer and his live-ins are "Boss" and dictate the what, where and when of all things Guns n' Roses. Two of those Partners—Slash and DMonetizes—owned the singer for two decades. During those two decades, by all accounts, a festering cesspool of wannabes, ‘insiders,’ and propaganda-peddlers owned the lay and otherwise uneducated in ForumLand by pumping their noggins with ‘power’ and ‘control’ narratives.

Until the adult Americans entered the room in early 2016.

Or perhaps your point is, that despite what is contained within the present thread, including verbatim screengrabs and the most recent legal averments, that you are a truther pledging allegiance to the currently active propagandists who, at the very moment of this post, knowingly sponsor and condone posts and entire threads regurgitating propaganda and falsities on page 1 of the most frequented site in all of ForumLand?

Advise when you are prepared to weigh in on the substantive, irrefutable facts of this thread—the backbone of this thread directs each and every reader to the irrefutable relevant, recent, and parties, facts and legal principles.

That is available nowhere else in ForumLand. Unless, of course, it is lifted from me.
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Post by Blackstar on Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:56 am

I won't play. As I said before, I can continue ignoring this thread. I have better things to do with my time, including the rest of this forum.
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Post by FromHell on Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:20 am

@Blackstar wrote:I won't play. As I said before, I can continue ignoring this thread. I have better things to do with my time, including the rest of this forum.

Much obliged. I invite discussion--and even legit contradiction--but it ain't gonna happen. This thread is, thus, a narrative, by and large. There is no other way.

I trust, though, that you will continue to read each of my posts.

Honesty has its own valor.

I, for instance and by example, was advised months ago that you sent the offspring of the singer's nanny packing from a public Q&A of sorts. You are a fine archivist, so I've no doubt that you can link the public Q&A to the instant matter to which i reference. A few screengrabs were forwarded to me, and sure enough, you (or someone with your moniker) asked the basic question to the singer's live-in of whether he "managed" the band (or another one of my other hammered points (it's all a dog-fall to me, so forgive me). Said borderjumper, aka 'dreamer,' hot-tailed it out of said public Q&A directly after you (or someone with your moniker) posed that simple question.

Good on you.

I'm never first to be confrontational. Or dismissive.
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Post by Uli on Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:04 pm

@Blackstar wrote:"Forumland" has discovered the Trademark Office documents since  years.

Interesting. Cool

Also interesting, why is "Team Brazil" named on the official homepage of the band Guns N'Roses as the official management?

Guns N' Roses is managed by Team Brazil
https://www.gunsnroses.com/

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Post by Soulmonster on Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:41 pm

I would guess that the band Guns N' Roses is pretty much Axl these days, and he is managed by TB. Slash and Duff has some kind of agreement with the band where they will tour and (hopefully) record and release music, but with their own management. So legally speaking it could be a case of this in reality being "Guns N' Roses featuring Slash and Duff", but from marketing purposes it is probably better to not go into that.

Then there is a partnership where all the three guys are included as partners, but that is to regulate business aspects of the discography etc.

I suppose @Blackbird can fill us in Smile
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Post by Blackstar on Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:56 pm

@Soulmonster wrote:
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I suppose @Blackbird can fill us in Smile

Very Happy
(I could have this username though. I like the song - the Beatles one, I mean, not the shitty one by Myles' band Razz )

I think it's legally a partnership, but, like in the 90s and maybe even earlier, they have no choice but adjust to Axl's "abnormal" way and pace of doing things.
On the other hand, there are some things and situations that have changed since then. For example, Slash has another band, his own band which is a permanent and steady thing, unlike Snakepit and even Velvet Revolver, and with which he can make the music he likes in his own terms and pace - a "painless" band, as he called it recently. And, of course, they all have changed as people.
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Post by Uli on Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:13 pm

@Blackstar wrote:
I think it's legally a partnership, but, like in the 90s and maybe even earlier, they have no choice but adjust to Axl's "abnormal" way and pace of doing things.

Well, I guess they only agreed to the tour (contracts) if Axl turned up on time - and he did!

In my humble opinion, Axl realised that it's better to have Slash n' Duff on board, not only for the gigs, but to be able to re-release old stuff like the AfD remaster.
My guess it that the 3 "original partners" run things now (together, or they have their managers & lawyers make a deal) - and that's not a bad thing! Cool
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Post by Soulmonster on Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:20 pm

@Blackstar wrote:
@Soulmonster wrote:
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I suppose @Blackbird can fill us in Smile


Very Happy
(I could have this username though. I like the song - the Beatles one, I mean, not the shitty one by Myles' band Razz )

I think it's legally a partnership, but, like in the 90s and maybe even earlier, they have no choice but adjust to Axl's "abnormal" way and pace of doing things.
On the other hand, there are some things and situations that have changed since then. For example, Slash has another band, his own band which is a permanent and steady thing, unlike Snakepit and even Velvet Revolver, and with which he can make the music he likes in his own terms and pace - a "painless" band, as he called it recently. And, of course, they all have changed as people.

Ooops! I actually thought something was wrong as I wrote it, yet was too sleepy to figure it out.

Yes, it is a beautiful song. G. Love has a great cover of it, I tried to find it on youtube but it wasn't there. From one of his bootlegs with Special Sauce, I believe.
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Post by FromHell on Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:31 pm

@Uli wrote:

@FromHell wrote:It is likewise critical to note what topics that he has avoided, denied (more on that later) ...

Yep, looking forward to "later" then.  Cool

@FromHell wrote:It appears that you are more than a few paces off the beaten path.

Well, then again you act as the "expert" here, isn't it your friggin' job to bring me back on track? And pronto, please.  Razz  Wink

@FromHell wrote:
A twenty-year stalemate ensued in which Slash and DMoney legally prevented the singer from using the marks, cashing in on synch and even pirating their royalties.  Hence, the singer played Brooklyn Bowl and backyard bbq's with an ever-revolving door of nobodies in his cover band

Yeah, well, that is one way to put it. The history of "new" GnR has been well documented. I was around for those years from 2006 until 2014.
Except for this part maybe:

@FromHell wrote:..that's before we get into the link between these Howard Hughes years and the current dilemma with Vivendi d/b/a UMG and it's sub Geffen.

Looking forward to more "info" on this!!!  Hay

@FromHell wrote:
There is no contractual anything because he is a Remaining, Original Partner who, along with DMoney, controlled the partnership assets for a quarter century.  There was never going to be any unleashing of the Brink's truck known as AFD unless Slash and DMoney were physically playing in the band.  It took the singer crawling back by requesting Slash's number two decades after the fact to get this not-so-subtle point.

Ok, if that was your "point" (or one of 'em), I finally got it. sfhaetdj

@FromHell wrote: In all that splicing (yellow highlighting, really), you missed a conspicuous line.  In a post just above and repeated (earlier) elsewhere:  “[…] all the man does is talk…about…his power as a GP ...”

What you (as in the plural) are seeing the past few days is public negotiation in timed, published interviews.  Pressure, if you prefer.  It harkens back to late last summer/early fall [which, (co)incidentally mirrors my activity—your call as to whether it’s contemporaneous or prior.].  In that vein, note that the ubiquitous Slash is saying (yet again) that there is a Gn’R record. Scroll up, and keep an eye out for Mr. Niven references.

The “we’re gonna sort of focus on that” published a few days ago then doesn’t mean what Heaven’s Gate is trained to believe that it means.  ForumLand, on the whole (present company excluded), continues to be puppeteered by the Gimp at the behest of Cuffy’s boi.  

It's all-quiet in certain circles.  Am I right, or I am right?  And yet Slash and DMoney are yack, yack, yacking away.

@FromHell wrote:

All this, prurient though it may be, distracts from Mr. Niven's confirmation in a podcast (if that is actual thing) with a canadian (if that is an actual place) a few days ago of matters detailed in this very thread.

I believe in coincidences.  And friction.

@FromHell wrote:

Selectively commenting on the following, all of which has been posited in the present thread:

Re the inimitable Mr. Niven, his historical attestations are beyond reproach.  This, necessarily, includes those occurring hot n’ heavy post-2015, particularly given that one Mr. Stradlin consulted Mr. Niven, as referenced above, during the failed negotiations.  

That’s akin to sayin that Ms. Warner managed NITL.  Next.

Slash’s publicly-available averments during his divorce proceeding—specifically the asset disclosure—account for his advances from Vivendi/UMG.  It is public, factual evidence that he has recorded with the aligned two Remaining, Original Gn’R Partners.

And let’s get something straight:  advances are recoupable.  


Curioser and Curiouser.  A few conspicuous weeks AFTER the above quotes, we have the below grab from today.  Note the specificity of one named Partner and location.  Balance it against the glaring non-specificity, which anyone inquiring about elsewhere in ForumLand was assuredly either censored OR bullied/ridiculed.  Note, too, that the below grab was unsurprisingly censored, er, I mean later 'removed:'

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Post by FromHell on Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:52 pm

Uli--the prior post is your "more on that later." As promised.
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Post by Uli on Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:22 pm

Yeah well, what strikes the eye is: Slash is moving into Axl's studio... that might mean Axl is "boss". Wink
But I don't think so. It's just that they both know they'll need each other to make another GN'R album (or single, who knows what they'll be doing)...
Duff obviously got his amp in shape already. XD

So, now all we need to know: is there trouble with UMG/Vivendi? Will they release anything the band deliver? Or will there be need for new negotiations, a new recording contract maybe? Blanco
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Post by FromHell on Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:01 am

@Uli wrote:Yeah well, what strikes the eye is: Slash is moving into Axl's studio... that might mean Axl is "boss". Wink
But I don't think so. It's just that they both know they'll need each other to make another GN'R album (or single, who knows what they'll be doing)...
Duff obviously got his amp in shape already. XD

So, now all we need to know: is there trouble with UMG/Vivendi? Will they release anything the band deliver? Or will there be need for new negotiations, a new recording contract maybe? Blanco







TMZ is in hot pursuit, I trust.  Or at least a south-of-American subject gittin a thrill up the matted fur on his leg while cowerin under the thumb of one cowardly dictator or another.

I expect a link to photos or video of Slash in Malibu (if that is an actual place).  At any moment.

The singer’s jawn—secured from y-o-u-r back pocket—ain’t dense like Metropolitan Avenue in Brooklyn.  Williamsburg, raise ya.  And, no, I ain’t talkin bout the singer being reduced to playin Brooklyn Bowl in his solo band as Mr. Azoff wiped the floor with his intransigent, petty, litigious ass.  Then again, who hasn’t mopped the floor at the summary stage or subsequent to the filings with said singer’s bluster and bully backed by your--you, as in the plural--dime in his pocketbook?

A live-in of one Partner planted the propaganda power play about a ‘mysterious’ amp.  And then fed it to ForumLand’s censor-in-chief to rattle the cages.  The monkey must be fed.  Were either of the other two Partners referenced in said since-censored post, namely the guitarist?  It’s got all the specificity of a non-specific Marshall Applewhite what-have-you.  Read the wiped post again.  With an informed eye.

This shit, rumor has it, “is legit” as legit gits.  Or simply gargle.  Then spit.  Scroll up in the present thread.  ForumLand will be back for another bite at the apple.  In this very thread.  Trust me.
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Post by FromHell on Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:07 am

@FromHell wrote:

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I expect a link to photos or video of Slash in Malibu (if that is an actual place).  At any moment.

The singer’s jawn—secured from y-o-u-r back pocket—ain’t dense like Metropolitan Avenue in Brooklyn.  Williamsburg, raise ya.  

...

A live-in of one Partner planted the propaganda power play about a ‘mysterious’ amp.  And then fed it to ForumLand’s censor-in-chief to rattle the cages.  The monkey must be fed.  Were either of the other two Partners referenced in said since-censored post, namely the guitarist?  It’s got all the specificity of a non-specific Marshall Applewhite what-have-you.  Read the wiped post again.  With an informed eye.

This shit, rumor has it, “is legit” as legit gits.  Or simply gargle.  Then spit.  Scroll up in the present thread.  ForumLand will be back for another bite at the apple.  In this very thread.  Trust me.


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Post by FromHell on Sat May 04, 2019 4:29 am

@Uli wrote:


@Blackstar wrote:"Forumland" has discovered the Trademark Office documents since  years.




Interesting. Cool

Also interesting, why is "Team Brazil" named on the official homepage of the band Guns N'Roses as the official management?

Guns N' Roses is managed by Team Brazil
https://www.gunsnroses.com/

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Revelation Management Group, namely Jeff Varner, manages Slash.  Revelation is a sub of Red Light Management.  Duff Monetizes maintains separate and distinct management, namely Brian Klein, who likewise manages Dough Mounts daughter.  Which part(s) of these two factual statements is unclear to you?  DMoney’s wife provides you—as in the singular—instruction as she poses between the power of Gn’R:  the two, Remaining Original Partners and, curiously enough, tags Messrs. Varner and Klein:

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For further edification, Gn’R, as asserted ad nauseum by two, only two ‘users’ in ForumLand (and since heavily plagiarized), is a General Partnership consisting of t-h-r-e-e Partners since Izzy sold his equity stake.  Which part(s) of this irrefutable, legal fact is unclear to you?  There is no debate over legal fact.  It's much as if you're telling me if a nittany lion were a gangrenous, locomotive maggot then a gallon of festering stench from a septic tank could possibly, maybe and definitely maybe mean that the singer's live-ins manage Slash and DMoney. Here is the Notice of Opposition that Ms. Pietrini filed electronically before the United States Trial and Appeal Board on March 26, 2019:

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A nanny hanger-on and her offspring ‘Dreamer’ manage the singer.  What did you call it—ThugsBrazil?  This is to say that the singer manages himself, and, after two decades crawled back to Slash—as he handed out the equivalent of legal IOU’s—on his knees with a phone call after asking his cabana boy for Slash’s number.
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Post by FromHell on Sat May 04, 2019 6:12 am

Begging the question, but is anyone who is actually posting following the factual story?  At all?  This ain’t the Rule Against Perpetuities.  It ain’t even the fiction of Common Core, if that is an actual thing.  It’s connect-a-dot, with me spoon-feeding ForumLand targeted fact unearthed from the public domain.  Amd not without inconsiderable scrutiny.  Unmasking, I hear pray tell, is an actual thing now.  For c(s)ensors, socialists and sycophants.

The Gimp follows, sure.  But he ain’t posting.  He’s simply—as he’s wont to do—lurking for a pounce moment that ain’t gonna happen.  It ain’t stoppin him from registerin users at a-4-d.com with successive ‘message’ monikers aimed at me, and said monikers likely registered via VPN.

If I’m to git to ‘the dilemma’ re the recordings (scroll up) of the Gn’R Partnership vis-à-vis (that’s french for go fuck yourself Gimp) one individual Partner’s fuckups with Vivendi-UMG-Grainge—Azoff (now Mr. LiveNation)—Iovine—and Gilhuly in his solo band and how it affects the shit people want to know about, then rather than blow smoke up my ass, let’s advance the discussion.  I don’t play grabass.  Git straight on the relevant facts.

Why?  One, it’s a long fucking story with a lotta ins and outs.  I can push posts presumably as quickly as the World’s Most Villainous Pianist can down fentanyl, true.  And almost as furiously as RS plagiarizes me.  No question.  But, two, if we ain’t gonna follow the story with an inarguable factual base (replete with legal citation), what’s the point?

@FromHell has 150 posts, give or take, in two threads in ForumLand.  Said threads have garnered more than 15 t-h-o-u-s-a-n-d views between a-4-d.com (just shy of two thousand) and thirteen thousand in another corner of ForumLand.  Three thousand views in the latter occurred AFTER being ‘BANNED’ on Corporal Upham’s site, as detailed above.  That is, if my Common Core math is in the vicinity, 100 views per post.  And that’s before we consider that a-4-d.com is an up-and-coming site which'll grow on veritable fact.  And that’s likewise before we even consider how Mr. Urchin has north of 800 profile views before being ‘BANNED’ on mygina with a scant 75 posts.  How TF is that even possible?

Word is out.  And a-4-d.com is where the action is.  For the foreseeable future, anyhow.

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Thirteen thousand views elsewhere.  Note the additional three thousand views after my final post.  Compare, too, said dates and the date of my registration on a-4-d.com.
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Post by FromHell on Sun May 05, 2019 11:50 am

Davey Holmes, coming sideways.  Rumor has it, so it goes.  Say it ain’t so, Homie.  Or is it Holmesy?

Propping your plagiarist pal, Mr. Rolling Stone Hiatt, over a lil ditty in this very thread squarely positions you pissing up the wrong tree.  Precious though you are.

The tried, true and tired vehicle that you trot out is paternalistic Marty King Jr. victimhood doublethink.  Michael King, as it were.  I, too, have a dream.  To wit:  do distinguish for us backwoods, barely literate folks Michael King from Archie Carey and Sam Francis Smith.  King thunderously thieved from both with the aplomb of a licentious lecher, just as he pillaged the soul of the written word for his “doctorate” as an impecunious, purulent adulterer donning the cloth as the proverbial wolf.  And now, you presumably exhort by proxy, that all federal ‘workers’ enjoy a yearly taxpayer-footed holiday as they stand, as we shall say, in a-w-e, of such putrescence.

Five-finger discounting while tossing a red herring rambling that Saul Hudson, p/k/a Slash, and Duff McKagan lack the status of “official members” despite both reigning as Power brokers in the Partnership reverberates as chatterbate and fails no less magnificently as the Devil eyeing a bath of Holy Water.

Clever though you may fancy your light fingers and rampant revisionism, ripping off ForumLand’s most distinctive voice while liberally lifting from William Faulkner and treasonously treating each as your own in the very same carcinogenic cesspool is nothing short of stupefying.  

Hearst prances about as a flailing Nancy up on 57th for a reason.  You rove as the plagiarist-at-large.  The ballers are in the Financial District, sophisticant.  Next you’re in the neighborhood, live dangerously on the 1, 6 or J down to the Proud Boys moving the money.  In fact, you can cozy up to ForumLand’s ubiquitous voice on the L to the 6 and proof his posts from which you thieve.

“Apparently a new album is coming ‘sooner than you think,’ in case you’re curious about the sound a Sunset Strip men’s rights activism meeting makes.”  Cite your manufactured quotation.  I’ve cited your manufactured quotation—and attributed it directly to you, replete with the lockstep liberal euphemistic 'dog whistle' vilifying 'white,' Christian Americans who love their rnfn'r, including Guns n' f'n Roses.

We both know that the truth is an absolute defense.  And we both know, when the dust settles, that there’ll be scores more views on this thread than on your lazy lift-job.  An eerily similar thread elsewhere in ForumLand is proof positive.  

Shit or get off the pot, Homie.  In the interim, retreat to the small print with Kacey and Lizzo as the Sandmann directs a Brink’s truck from District Court heavy with Hearst’s assets into his Christian pa’s protected palace just as he’s about to do with NBC/Universal loot, you thieving, smug sophisticant.
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Post by FromHell on Fri May 24, 2019 11:34 am

Hellyeah, Forumland.  Made aware I've been of the indelicacies of the butchering of my staple--the GP legal fact--masquerading as a rn'fn'r band elsewhere in Propagandaville.  Likewise I'm humbled--or ought to be--that the lay are fumbling as a queer at a weenie roast on the irrefutable fundamentals of the basic biz org of a GP and how a partnership agreement is but a placeholder, just as I'm aware that this thread has garnered just south of 2100 views with 342 registered users.

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Post by FromHell on Mon May 27, 2019 6:19 am

An apt pupil of mine or an apt pupil of my brother from a different mother:

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The above-quotation is the most accurate, bar none, of the bunch.  At least of the first few pages that I scanned from the link provided me.  And yet, it has literally zero, as in not one, “likes.”  Riddle me that.

Reading further through the link provided me is but an exercise in a debauched Cliff’s-noting extravaganza when I i-n-t-r-o-d-u-c-e-d the legal entity (GP) manuscript to ForumLand.

Said quotation is a B plus-ish for line-by-lining Mr. Urchin to churn out a tidy summary.  But a C minus-ish for actual and associated understanding, and a flat D for failing to attribute the acquired knowledge to Mr. Urchin.  Then again, said user presumably would’ve been BANNED for tagging Mr. Urchin.  As such, I’m obliged to grade this dude/dudette F minus on attribution.  You’re self-censoring from fear of being BANNED by Rufus Truth Censoring Bro and his canadian handler?  Christ Ol’ Friday.

We know two things about Ralph Thrice Cucked Bro.  One, the snaggle-toothed british ran as rats from Yorktown (and from the dentist) faster than he can roll to the Big Mac-Burger King buffet.  And, two, he censors faster and more indiscriminately than a meth-tweaking hooker dropping her drawers for a pack of smokes and a few bucks.  Scroll up for all the creepy, maggoty evidence.

Beyond the above, Rance Truth Censoring Bro and his canadian propaganda-peddler ain’t gonna hit a-4-d.com any time soon.  Trust me.  It’s neutral ground.  I’d swat both to their effeminate backs faster than a tranny in Bangkok hitting the sheets sweet-talking a socialist canadian or a snaggle-toothed brit.  I smoked Messiah Sells Lies some three years ago, and said Applewhite wannabe hasn’t been heard from since.  One thing about Beho(M)ith Sells Lies:  at least he scurried from beneath the fetid dumpster with all the accompanying indignities when the adult Americans entered the room.

The Bloomberg employee, well-intentioned though this dude/dudette appears, ought’n stick to the BBG chats (and unending subpoenas thereupon) and register for a basic biz org class.  And yet, somehow, this dude/dudette is the apparent ‘authority’ in the linked thread.  “Trail”ing ain’t knowledge any more than scrapbooking and conveniently splicing quotes with the aplomb of a revisionist from multiple parties in multiple publications (many of which are now-defunct) spanning two or more decades.

You want new?  A-l-l marks, including the service mark, are registered to the three GPs:  Slash, Duff Money, and Piano Man.  Riddle me that.
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Post by FromHell on Mon May 27, 2019 10:03 am

Rumor has it that the Gimp is claiming 'victory.'  Er, I mean, is more restless than the natives.  Gone off the reservation, I hear tell.

I'm circling back to you, Gimp. And Cuffy.  Trust me.  Laying the foundation, is all.  Your boi ought know all about that, given how many times he's been trounced in the courtroom.

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Duplicate post. Da fuq.


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Duplicate post.


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Post by FromHell on Tue May 28, 2019 6:40 am

General Partnership. Those two words have changed the face of ForumLand.  Given the newfound fervor, I expect to see a GP tattoo in the future.  Or a GP christening from those south of America.

The train has left the station.  It cannot be stopped, only boarded.  But…three years after the work was effected to run off Marshall Applewhite and marginalize his adherents, subsequent to boxing in the censoring canadian, and marooning the c(s)ensorous Swede on an island all have abandoned?

Either way, I dig it.  TeamBully and its proxies munching on yellow snow.

But what of the chatter about this, that and the other partnership agreement (PA)?  I ain’t about to review 75 tedious @justanurchin posts to see what he got out there and what he didn’t.  I respect that he was posting in 2016-2017 at the height of the cult’s lockstep doublethink, and pierced the cacophony of the hordes of bullies regurgitating propaganda.  And all while being monitored and censored at every turn.  And all on a subject that is difficult, at best, and seems as far removed as possible from good, ol, American rock n’ roll.  Impressive in totality.

The basics?  While they are voluminous—here are a few that are educationally relevant:

GP are statutory business orgs comprised of two or more persons.  Those persons need not be natural persons.  Excepting Louisiana, all states are RUPA or UPA.  Like the UCC, RUPA and UPA have both mandatory and default rules governing GP.  As such, there is no need for a PA.  And, moreover, unless a PA states otherwise, RUPA or UPA governs.  RUPA is more limiting as to the degree that a PA may modify the statutory default rules, and the partnership is an entity and not an aggregate of its partners (compare to UPA), thus it can sue and be sued under its name.  Cali is RUPA.  RUPA, however, maintains the aggregate UPA rules re unlimited personal liability for claims against the partnership (recall the timing of Mr. Stradlin selling his stake to the Remaining, Original three—proving his prescience for a quarter of a century, i.e., until late 2015) and the aggregate rules on taxation (each partner is taxed on its share of the profits).

For those living dangerously, see RUPA §§ 103, 203, 204, 302, 303, 305-307, 401, 403, 404, 601, 701.  One purchasing products from this particular GP and commenting upon said products in ForumLand can’t go wrong with § 401(c), § 404 and § 601.

Refer to the 75 posts of @justanurchin for application of the prior paragraphs.  While he has been BANNED elsewhere in ForumLand, the bulk of said posts are viewable (those not censored, anyhow) and the bulk of those are educational in nature.  Mind, though, that irrefutable factual posts that directly confronted the proprietor’s propaganda were immediately censored, including that all three Partners maintain their own separate and distinct management (as detailed in the present thread), and thus there is no “band management.”

The PAs referenced and relied upon by @justanurchin have more holes than those being dug by the censoring sycophants waiting for a bone to be thrown their way.  RUPA’s default provisions are thus Boss where the PA is silent.

The present question, then, should be a variation on the above quotation of bikka (if that is an actual name) and the question that he arrived at after reading @justanurchin.  Or is it she?  Nothing for nothing, but I’ve answered that question.  Scroll up.  I likewise referenced the answer two posts ago.  There’s more than a fair chance that he/she don’t know where to hitch in ForumLand for continued edification.  But that is changing.  It grows and will continue.

Backdraft.  Careful sneaking a peak, Gimp.
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Post by FromHell on Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:01 am

Marks.  Trade and service.

The legal distinction between trademarks and service marks is razor thin.  Unlike RUPA and UPA (and partnership agreements generally), patent and trademark law doesn’t lend itself to a narrow, in-the-ballpark summary as applied to a known, real-world biz entity like the Gn’R GP.

Having a go at patent and trademark law will put hair on your chest.  Save for @snooze72 and @justanurchin, I’ve seen nothing but short curlies in ForumLand.  The wiry variety.

As such, I’ll keep the distinction between trade and service marks as a basic bitch stumbling upon the flash mob that ForumLand once was.  Prior to the adult Americans entering the room in 2016, anyhow.

Zippo.  Its primary product is that of a lighter manufactured in Pennsylvania nearing 100 years. It is a good.  That good is stamped with the trademark Zippo.  It is not stamped Zippo TM.  A product stamped TM is an unregistered trademark.  Zippo registered its trademark and that protection is viewable on TESS.  Milton Hershey’s empire, likewise in Pennsylvania and longer than 100 years until present-day generates revenue hand-over-fist and his philanthropist trusts likewise continue to dole out to this day.  Hershey’s Chocolate, Kisses, Reese’s, Kit-Kats and on and on and on are products sold and consumed internationally.  These products are stamped with the trademark Hershey.   But what about Hershey’s Chocolate World in Times Square?  (If I’m not much mistaken, it’s located in one of the five boroughs).  Or the Milton Hershey School?  Or the Milton Hershey Medical Center?  Or Hersheypark?  Or Hershey Entertainment and Resorts?  Or any other Hershey subsidiary, err, I mean “trail?”  These subs are primarily providing services, thus Hershey in these instances is registered as a service mark.  To wit:  Hersheypark is providing a service.  Within said park Hershey goods are available for sale.  The goods within the park, Hershey Kisses and the like, are all trademarked whereas the mark hanging physically over the park (and sub) is a service mark and is registered as such.

Got it?  Good.

Follow the ball.

GUNS N’ ROSES is LIVE registered in three instances.  Those instances are clipped above. Scroll up. Two of those marks are trademarks; one for typed drawings (which is “merch” in ForumLand-speak),and the other is for typed drawings on the actual recordings sold as goods to you, the consumer.  The third?  

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A typed drawing.  If you, the reader, are confused as to who owns all THREE marks of GUNS N’ ROSES, including the service mark—the b(r)and name—either @soulmonster or @blackstar will now be able to authoritatively assist you on this legal fact or the legal fact that this is a continuing general partnership since Mr. Stradlin sold his stake, and that, likewise, the formerly exiting singer returned to said general partnership, thereby returning ownership of the service mark—b(r)and name—to all three Remaining, Original Partners.

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Post by FromHell on Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:58 am

Ripping through this thread (had to reread the whole damn thing) you—the reader—will find nowhere else excepting plagiarists and wannabes:

Revelation/Mr. Varner manages Slash;
Mr. Klein manages Dough Mounts (and his daughter);
Piano Man manages himself while his live-ins, TeamBully, spend and flaunt y-o-u-r money;
Universal Recordings owns Piano Man’s remaining recordings, if any, from his solo band because it paid for them and thus owns Master Rights;
Rodney King’s pupils were less dilated than Piano Man’s in the south-of-American, scripted interview with Duff Money re one Mr. Izzy Stradlin;
The Memphis Mafia at least spoke literate American while doling out “prescription” drugs to one Mr. Presley;
Angie Warner managed the NITL tour and won an industry award for such;
Slash, Duff Money and Piano Man are General Partners;
Slash’s draw from the general partnership in 2017 alone neared $45 million;
RUPA’s default rules govern the Gn’R GP where the PA is silent;
Slash and Duff Markets owned Piano Man for two decades as majority Partners re the back catalogue/Brink’s truck prior to Piano Man crawling back, err, directing his goldbricking, ‘dreamer’ live-in for Slash’s number;
All three LIVE trade and service marks are OWNED by the three Remaining, Original Partners, including the service mark GUNS N’ ROSES;
Slash is the de facto spox for the GP, with Duff Monetizes following as a close second;
The World’s Most Silenced Singer heeds the direction of Slash, Duff Money and LiveNation and has directed TeamBully to stfu;
Slash and Dirty Money authorize published interviews about the GP month-in and month-out;
A “gag order” is judge-issued, typically in a criminal proceeding; a “non-disclosure agreement” is an absurdity in a GP and evidenced by the lay’s access to interview after interview of Slash and DMoney yack, yack, yacking seemingly on a weekly basis;
Slash filed for divorce prior to NITL, thus all earnings thereafter are NOT marital property;
Individuals filming a/v of concerts own the copyright to said material and, as such, manipulators of said a/v files creating spliced compilations on YT own the copyright to said material;
Neither of the above is DMCA-related as it involves bootlegging, not copyrighting;
Neither Slash nor DMoney have any incentive to compel the wiping of YT channels;
Slash and Dirty Money’s content is readily available on YT, including their Grammy-winning VR material;
Mygina claimed to be ‘getting to the bottom’ of the DMCA pseudo-wiping;
Mygina failed to report what exactly occurred at “the bottom” of the DMCA pseudo-wiping;
Included in Slash’s $45 million income in 2017 are advances paid by Universal Recordings;
Said advances are recoupables;
The inimitable Mr. Niven and yours truly have stated, weeks in advance, that Gn’R recordings of the three Remaining, Original Gn’R partners exist;
Said published statements occurred weeks in advance of the UCR (if that is an actual name) 'article' of a radio interview with Slash apparently occurring in Michigan last week;
The contrived planting of ‘Slash’s amp at the singer’s house’ has been detailed in this very thread;
Slash—the de facto spox—has spoken about the long-since completed recordings at-length since last summer but because of Piano Man’s resoundingly failed litigious nature and all-around assholery, including burning every possible bridge within Vivendi/UMG, release was never guaranteed;
One Mr. Izzy Stradlin sold his stake in the GP nearing 30 years ago, prescient, yes, particularly given that he was the chief songwriter and given that, under RUPA, the UPA aggregate rules continue to be the order of the day re unlimited personal liability;
Mr. Stradlin leveraged himself out in late-2015 when he had little (beyond morality) as he’d sold his stake;
Duff Markets continues to propagandize in recent interviews re Mr. Stradlin, specifically with one Andrew Magnotta;
Mr. Stradlin called “bullshit” and “loot” for what it is on his songs, and published “F.P. Money” as only his indirect temperament permits;
Mr. Stradlin is set to go this fall;
Duff Markets, Mr. H.R. Man, courier that he is, told the swing and groove of Gn’R that he was out after said groove injured his back;
Mr. Adler ripped through his songs in “guest” appearances, those “guest” appearances were the most engaged that summer and since;
Messrs. Adler and Stradlin have been eerily silent in the build-up to this fall.

The only questions in Propagandaville, then, to me, are what happened to @Uli, one, and, two, is that an actual name?  I’m picturing a dude hossing a shot put somewhere in east germany (if that is an actual place).

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Post by Uli on Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:18 pm

@FromHell wrote:
Revelation/Mr. Varner manages Slash;
Mr. Klein manages Dough Mounts (and his daughter);
Piano Man manages himself while his live-ins, TeamBully, spend and flaunt y-o-u-r money;
...


What money? I haven't spent any money for GN'R for what seems like ages (I bought the Vegas dvd years ago - does that still count?)...

Thanks again for all the info and the summary here. My question is: what do you expect us to make out of all this or what should we do with it?


@FromHell wrote:Universal Recordings owns Piano Man’s remaining recordings, if any, from his solo band because it paid for them and thus owns Master Rights


Ok, but will they ever see the light of day (or dark of night)?


@FromHell wrote:Slash filed for divorce prior to NITL, thus all earnings thereafter are NOT marital property


Yep, heard that prior to the reunion (rumor was going round for quite some time - the source? Maybe you?)...  Smile


@FromHell wrote:
Mr. Stradlin is set to go this fall;
Messrs. Adler and Stradlin have been eerily silent in the build-up to this fall.


Will have to wait and see what'll happen.  Cool


@FromHell wrote:The only questions in Propagandaville, then, to me, are what happened to @Uli, one, and, two, is that an actual name?  


Nah, it's not a real name (well for some people it is, but not for me). Actually it is a company:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ULi
Wink

Sorry for not getting back earlier, but unlike a few weeks/months ago (when I had time on my hands) I was too busy to be getting into this stuff here (for a while). Now I had some catching up to do, but it seems to me the most recent post was the most "important" one, so I quoted out of that one. Hope that's okay. Cool
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