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1988.02.02 - The Ritz, New York City, USA

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1988.02.02 - The Ritz, New York City, USA

Post by Soulmonster on Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:19 pm




February 2, 1988
The Ritz, New York, NY, USA
Setlist:
01. It's So Easy
02. Mr. Brownstone
03. Out Ta Get Me
04. Sweet Child O'Mine
05. My Michelle
06. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
07. Welcome to the Jungle
08. Nightrain
09. Paradise City
10. Mama Kin
11. Rocket Queen

Date:
February 2, 1988.

Venue:
The Ritz.

Location:
New York City, USA.

Line-up:
Axl Rose (vocals), Izzy Stradlin (rhythm guitarist), Slash (lead guitarist), Duff McKagan (bass) and Steven Adler (drums).

Notes:
The famous Ritz show in 1988 that was broadcast on MTV and aired on various radio channels. The band


Quotes:
Personally, I think we looked like a bunch of idiots on it [...] [Felt Forum, September 5, 1988].

You see on that live MTV thing, everything was pro except this monitor man who didn't have a clue what was going on. The crowd's hearing the show, everything's great, we're hearing spaceships' landing onstage, backwards echoes, screaming feedback, and the drummer doesn't know what, Steven doesn't know what's going on. Finally I tried to nail the monitor man with my microphone and my tour manager moved and I nailed him [laughs]. That was messy. But it leaves for some excitement [MTV Headbanger's Ball, September 1988].

Ahh, I hate that concert. [...] You know everybody likes it, but it was the worst playing...especially on my part. It was just bad. [...] Yeah, [the audience] did everything to me! They untuned my guitars and they pulled my jacks out. [...] We were all out of tune for the first three songs. It was chaos.[Circus Magazine - "Up Close and Personal with Guns' Slash and Duff", July 1989]

It's bad, it's terrible![...] My bass went out of tune for two songs.[...] I think people like it more like in the way when you drive past a car accident and somebody's mutilated, you know, it's like you can't help but look at it![Circus Magazine - "Up Close and Personal with Guns' Slash and Duff", July 1989]

The Ritz show in New York we played that trip was hugely popular on MTV. It wasn't one of our greatest shows by any means: Axl was having vocal problems, and though we didn't play badly, we'd played so much better in the recent past. In any case, it was loose and out of tune and punk rock, and for those reasons alone, it is something to be recognized. That footage is important because it is the essence of the band. The crowd was great, and like so many memorable moments, it was over and done before I knew it [Slash's autobiography, p 225]

MTV had contacted our management about taping one of our live performances while in the Apple, and it was scheduled for our appearance at the Ritz on February 2. Label mates Great White opened for us. After their set, it was time for us to hit the stage. I'm all ready to go, and fucking Axl is holding us up. Of all the times for him to do this. MTV was there, and this was huge, but eventually the MTV guys were like, "We gotta go, we gotta get this going, guys". Axl's like, "Fuck it. I'm not going on unless I have my bandanna!" Apparently, he couldn't find it after tearing apart the little hovel they gave us backstage. Of course the rest of the band was avoiding any eye contact with Axl, preferring to wander off, out of earshot, to do their grumbling. Finally, I couldn't take it anymore. "What's wrong with you, Axl?" He shrugged me off and continued with his insane tirade. He had all of our roadies looking around for people who had scarves or bandannas. I said, "C'mon, Axl, let's just go on." He blurted out, Fuck that. Fuck you. I need a bandanna or a scarf or I'm not doing this. Now, we're thirty minutes late. The cameramen were tired of standing around and said, "We're outta here." I was the only one who was openly begging them to stay: "Please, don't go, we'll go on." I'm sure that's why I am featured prominently throughout the video, because I showed some respect for the MTV crew. Axl finally found a fucking scarf, some bowder-blue, girly-looking thing, and the show began. He put it on, and he got this Little Rascals Alfalfa look going, because his hair was pushed up, like a ridiculous cowlick, on the back of his head. I'm sitting there playing and just laughing. "You dick, look at you. You couldn't go on without your scarf, and now you look like you're in an Our Gang movie."Someone must have tipped him off, because he finally got wise to it and adjusted the bandanna. In spite of all the drama, the show went off fantastically. It's become one of the most widely bootlegged performances of the band[/i][Steven's autobiography, "My Appetite for Destruction", 2010, p. 156-157]

I think that was the same night that I stage-dove and the crowd parted like the Red Sea and let me hit the floor. I lay there for a moment taking stock of whether I'd broken any bones or not. Then I got back on stage and tried to maintain some semblance of cool [Slash's autobiography, p 225]

I think that was one of the moments out here [in Los Angeles] where we all sort of realized that Guns were gonna blow up [Metro, February 9, 2012]
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Next concert: 1988.02.04.
Previous concert: 1988.01.31.




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Re: 1988.02.02 - The Ritz, New York City, USA

Post by 666 on Tue May 15, 2012 4:13 am

I was there!
Snuck out of my house to go Devil Laugh
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Re: 1988.02.02 - The Ritz, New York City, USA

Post by Soulmonster on Tue May 15, 2012 4:45 am

It's such a legendary concert with the MTV footage. Did you like it?
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Re: 1988.02.02 - The Ritz, New York City, USA

Post by 666 on Tue May 15, 2012 4:54 am

Seeing it now, it's full of energy and was really a right place, right time type of show. Axl's voice isn't great but again, he could always push it at that time to get through the show sounding relatively good. He had amazing power back then. I understand why he sings the way he does now but I don't understand how he lost the power. Although he sings more with his "head" voice now, so it does make sense. He's not conjuring up the diaphragm power that he used to use.

I wasn't much of a fan at that point. I had AFD for a few months, basically bought it because the cover looked cool but I don't remember listening to it much. I went to this show with friends sort of on a whim. I'd sneak out often to see bands at that time all over NY. But this show definitely stuck out and there was a buzz in the air, for sure.

If I remember right, I saw White Lion there the previous weekend and there was no buzz at all haha.
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Re: 1988.02.02 - The Ritz, New York City, USA

Post by Soulmonster on Tue May 15, 2012 5:04 am

Hehe. So do you prefer Ritz'88 or Ritz'12?
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Re: 1988.02.02 - The Ritz, New York City, USA

Post by 666 on Tue May 15, 2012 5:07 am

Ritz 88 because of the historical importance. They were hungry and it showed.

2012 was much better than I expected. Axl's voice was the best I've heard since I saw them in 2002.
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Post by Soulmonster on Tue May 15, 2012 5:17 am

It's good to hear that Axl can still give a great show almost 25 years later. He ages well. His voice and stage presence I mean Why Thank You
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Re: 1988.02.02 - The Ritz, New York City, USA

Post by 666 on Tue May 15, 2012 5:21 am

Stage presence goes a long way
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Post by Soulmonster on Tue May 15, 2012 5:25 am

Yeah, I couldn't care less about his looks, there are many ugly men with fantastic voices. I just wish he wouldn't dress as a dork, though, but he has always done that.
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Post by 666 on Tue May 15, 2012 5:28 am

Yeah, he always dressed odd. The look I liked best was 2006 with the braids in a pony tail. He didn't wear stupid looking hats or gloves or anything else. Usually jeans and a button down shirt. He actually looked a lot younger than he was too.
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Post by Soulmonster on Tue May 15, 2012 5:29 am

Which we can't say about him now, unfortunately. I'll start a new thread about ugly men with great voices.
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Re: 1988.02.02 - The Ritz, New York City, USA

Post by puddledumpling on Thu May 17, 2012 3:41 pm

Meeeyow! You boys sound like hens.
Axl is a fine-looking man. I'd do him.
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Re: 1988.02.02 - The Ritz, New York City, USA

Post by 666 on Thu May 17, 2012 3:46 pm

I am not a boy! I'm a man!! Evil or Very Mad


btw, if I'm not mistaken, Mama Kin was played at the 88 Ritz show as well
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Re: 1988.02.02 - The Ritz, New York City, USA

Post by 666 on Thu May 17, 2012 9:36 pm

and here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK_CLmH6rzw
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Re: 1988.02.02 - The Ritz, New York City, USA

Post by Soulmonster on Thu May 17, 2012 10:05 pm

Thanks for pointing out that error in the setlist, it earned you the TOTT (Thanks of the Thread)
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Post by 666 on Thu May 17, 2012 11:08 pm

mama kin wasn't always showed when the concert aired on mtv
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Post by Soulmonster on Thu May 17, 2012 11:10 pm

That is probably the reason why the source I used for compiling the setlist lacked that song.
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